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Re: [RFI] Fwd: Water treatment system RFI?

To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Fwd: Water treatment system RFI?
From: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:24:56 +0000
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Agreed ! ! !      But Mr. Pillow is still going strong.  😫😖

As with antennas and transmission lines in amateur radio, snake oil and
wizardry always prevails over real science and engineering.

Consider the flat earthers and those who truly believed the LHC would
generate a black hole to doom us all.

Not to mention poor Mr. Gallileo who had to spend time in Purgatory for
proposing the earth was not at the center of creation.

Dave - WØLEV

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 2:54 AM Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com> wrote:

> How on earth???  This type of thing was thoroughly debunked 30 years
> ago, and yet they continue to sell it.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 9/24/2021 6:30 PM, VE3FH via RFI wrote:
> >   This is my personal real-life experience with these system...
> > Back on Dec 2019 I installed a "calmat" electronic descaler system that
> I purchased at The Home Depot for around CAD$284 including taxes. The unit
> is made in Germany and it was the one with the best reviews at that time,
> the chinese-made ED2000 referred to below had pretty bad reviews.
> > Both my shack and the descaler are in the basement, shack by the rear
> wall, descaler by the front wall. As soon as I finished installing it
> descaler I scanned all the HF bands and found no beep nor birdies nor any
> RFI that I could trace to the unit.
> > As for performance vs. a traditional water softener (several of which I
> have owned in the past), it does work exactly as advertise. Over time it
> leaves a whitish film on surfaces that is easily wiped out, I no longer
> have a heavy mineral build-up in the kettle, dishwasher, coffee maker,
> sinks, etc. Also as advertised, it took several weeks for me to realize the
> unit's effect, its performance was no immediately noticeable right upon
> installing it.
> >
> > In summary, considering the additional cost for a conventional water
> softener, plus its installation cost (my house did not have one when I
> moved in and the plumbing job would have been significant), plus the cost
> to run it I think I made the right decision and I would not hesitate to go
> with this same unit again.
> >
> > In the link below, the unit I have is the one with two coils, the one
> with four coils was not available back when I got mine in 2019 and I
> suspect is to deal with harder water.
> >
> > https://www.homedepot.ca/search?q=calmat#!q=calmat
> > As with most things in life YMMV...
> > 73,Julio VE3FH
> >
> >
> >      On Monday, September 20, 2021, 06:53:13 p.m. EDT, Don <
> kb5kwv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   Have you ever used a hard water system like this?
> > iSpring-ED2000-Electronic-Descaler-Conditioner you can find it on amazon
> > if the link does not come through.
> >
> >
> amazon.com/iSpring-ED2000-Electronic-Descaler-Conditioner/dp/B0744TC3PW/
> >
> > This is what I am wanting to use. It sends pulses through the water to
> > suspend the minerals, etc so it will not scale your pipes, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have lived with wells and water treatment systems since 1995, and have
> > never traced any RFI to them.  In that time, I had a WaterBoss (for 20
> > years) and a Whirlpool for the last 5+ years. Both were/are digital, so
> > far as the timer is concerned.  It's important to remember that they are
> > only really active during the recharge cycle - in the case of my current
> > Whirlpool, that's 2 hrs 45 minutes  every 3-4 days.
> >
> >    It sounds like you're being hustled - Both units I've had are
> > self-contained, and were both simple to install and trouble-free. The
> > biggest WaterBoss - for the hardest water - is only $505 and Home Depot
> > offers free shipping to your home.
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> > web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> > For spots, please use your favorite
> > "retail" DX cluster.
> >
> > On 9/19/2021 10:56 PM, Kenny Silverman wrote:
> >> I should have mentioned I was also given the option of just replacing
> >> the tanks (softener and neutralizer) and valves, but I guess keeping
> >> the mechanical control mechanism? Im new to well water treatment
> >> systems so I’m not sure if there’s any disadvantage to the tank
> >> replacement vs total system upgrade.
> >>
> >> Regards , Kenny K2KW
> >>
> >>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:44 PM, Don <kb5kwv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I emailed 4 companies and got almost nothing back.
> >>>
> >>> One company would only say it complied with part 15.
> >>>
> >>> I still have not bought one because of RFI questions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >>> Subject: [RFI] Water treatment system RFI?
> >>> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 21:43:59 -0400
> >>> From: Kenny Silverman <kenny.k2kw@gmail.com>
> >>> To: rfi <rfi@contesting.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We need a new water treatment system (we’re on well water) and all
> >>> the new systems are digital. Anyone experienced RFI from a new
> >>> system? Or just treat it like any electric device?
> >>>
> >>> Regards , Kenny K2KW _______________________________________________
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