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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by HK3CQ on January 15, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
It is regrettable the manner reality has been distorted with the operation of RA3CO, Dimitri Kriukov and YL2KL, Girts Budis in Colombia during the CQWW DX past contests. This is all really very amusing to read the comments of people who venture to speculate, providing false accusations against me without even knowing the truth of the facts, coming to false conclusions, concluding about facts they don�t know and even adjusting the Colombian law to advocate for illegal operations. For this I do have to clarify the following:

- The complaint submitted to the Ministry of Communications of Colombia was not only signed by me, HK3CQ, but also by 20 other recognized and noted dxers and contesters in Colombia. We are not unknown or anonymous; we are active hams and knowledgable of Colombian ham regulations and international contests. Among others, our complaint was signed/endorsed by HK3W, HK3CW, HK6DOS, HK1X, HK6P, HK3O, HK3TU, HJ3LAO, HJ3MQ, HK3GXI, HK3PSA, HK3GAL, HK3LGO, HK3Q, HK4KDO, HK1KXA, HK3JCA, HJ3LAO and HJ3MQ besides HK7AJE as the President of the Federation of Ham Clubs in Colombia, FRACOL (for its Spanish acronym), the national association which groups the largest number of hams in the country. Some of those who endorsed the complaint are not even members of FRACOL, I mention this as it has been said that the signatures had been wrongfully acquired, when on the contrary it was a spontaneous, conscientious and independent action. From the date the complaint was filed to the Ministry, many other Colombian hams have expressed their support and today, without a doubt, many others would additionally endorse the complaint.

- 4L5A and LU5DX have tried to diminish the accusations against RA3CO and YL2KL throwing dirt at HK3CQ with false and ridiculous accusations. Remember that not only HK3CQ has complained, in defense of the dignity and honesty of ham radio in Colombia but a number of other Colombian hams have endorsed this action, as many other hams from different parts of the world. Now 4L5A and LU5DX would have to fabricate more lies against all the signees and the facts would still be the same, RA3CO and YL2KL violated Colombian ham regulations and the rules of the CQWW DX operating without a license and operating using a lent call, expressly prohibited by our ham legislation, where guest operators are also prohibited. Section 9 of Article 76 of Decree 2058 of 1995, of the Colombian Ham regulations; specify that the holder of a ham license in Colombia �cannot allow the use of their call sign to any other person�. Article 16 of the same Decree reads: �To be able to operate as a ham radio operator, a license must be obtained from the Ministry of Communications, previously having approved the requirements indicated in this Decree�. Therefore, the accused did not file for a license, they simply and abusively took the call signs of other hams; RA3CO did it twice, in 2007 and 2008, knowingly. Maybe HK1RA did lend his call (he has also been included in our complaint) but HK3RA, Wolfgang Torres, never lent his call and was never even requested to do so.

- Evidently I HK3CQ, sent the information to K3EST advising about the abnormality and requesting DQ. It was the least I could do, being the CQ checkpoint for Colombia, besides all who signed the letter knew about this. Therefore the actions have not been solely on my part, nor have they been secret, everything has been public, transparent and in writing for everybody to see.

- The aforementioned means that I never violated the good faith principle. On the contrary, who violated the code were the unfortunate hams that took a risk, operating illegally knowingly, but looked the other way, thinking they wouldn�t get caught, deceiving the ham community worldwide. The CQWW contest committee was also deceived as logs were sent, knowing they had acted illegally.

- It would be very interesting that LU5DX unveiled the names of the Colombian hams that according to him did not endorse our complaints. This is not a poll or a probe for opinions, where the majority wins. This is about the truth and the law, all so simple. It would be amusing to know the calls of the HK�s that LU5DX says he contacted and they, if they exist, have no legal bearing and even less ham ethics or plain ethics for that matter. These hams should then promote changes in our legislation to change into legal what today is illegal, promoting self assignment of call signs, no licensing and radio anarchy. Sounds great doesn�t it?

- Also it was said that why did we not act before. If it weren�t for the operation of RA3CO it would all be still unknown, but due to his overwhelming hunger for another win, he decided to cross the line again (2008) and shoot for the stars the second time, if he wasn�t caught the first time why would he the second? We discovered the illegal operation of 2007 by looking at the results of the CQWW of 2007, where it clearly specifies that he operated as HK1AR. From this some local hams became suspicious and knowing that behind all this was HK1AR (W4OI) further research was performed finding the rest of the irregularities we listed in our complaint to the Ministry of Com. We are not professional PI�s to investigate the legality of every HK call on the airwaves but this came about because we heard the call HK3RA being used before and during the contest from somebody on CW, knowing that the legal owner of the call, Wolfgang Torres, is not a contester and does not know the code. We asked him directly and found the string that led us to the whole story behind that call and others in years prior. Simple story!

- The tale that HK3CQ created the story so he could rent his station is despicable! I have never rented my place and never will. Fortunately I live from my work as an economist, and PhD in history; I work in one of the most prestigious universities of my country, and an advisor and consultant and have the honor of being the VP of the Colombian Academy of History, without deepening further into my r�sum�. Therefore, I do not need to rent my ham shack. This lie was likely made-up by Anthony Rogozinsky HK1AR (W4OR) to discredit me, misinform and conceal his illegal operations. The facts are simple: A few years back when Mr. Rogozinsky came to Colombia, when I and others did not know of his antics, I lent (not rent) my ham station in my farm. From there he operated as 5K5Z, I traveled with HK3CW to check on him and ask him why he was operating as 5K5 when he should have operated as 5K3. He said it had been a mistake from the Ministry of Communications. At least on that occasion he did file for a legal license. The �mistake� � I never believed in, the ministry is very cautious with the paperwork and mistakes are corrected before any operation. Once Alberto Silva, LU1DZ, asked me for a QTH to rent to operate from Colombia and I provided Mr. Rogozinsky�s place in Cartagena, sending him the link. I never said I rented a place, I just told him of that place, the only one I knew of at the time. Later and slowly I and other Colombian hams began to understand the type of person Mr. Rogozinsky really was and began to distance ourselves from him. We also later knew of his EBay scams (he has had more than 34 eBay names and has been kicked off 33 times!). Now he resurfaces with false accusations to stand up for his illegal actions.

- If any ham decided to travel to Russia, Georgia or Argentina for a CQWW contest and use RA3CO, 4L5A or LU5DX or any other invented call, without any regard to local ham regulations, what would be the reaction of the impersonated hams? Would they disqualify them? Well this is the case, here and it is totally incomprehensible for us that some out there are pretending to justify these illegal operations, absolutely incredible!

- It is absurd to think that because the CQWW contest committee has not DQ�d anybody we are promoting a boycott against them, we are not as dumb as you think we are. This issue has other connotations and we trust that the contest committee will value our complaints and take the appropriate decisions. We will continue to participate and enjoy contests from Colombia, but we will not turn our heads to illegal operations, this is our land and it deserves respect.

- CQ has requested a formal response from the Ministry of Communications of Colombia. If this has not been submitted yet, it is because they have not taken any actions yet, it is not because they have denied our complaints, this issue is taken very seriously in Colombia and the Ministry does not act without taking the appropriate and legal actions against ham operators without making it�s own investigations. For you who still after all our research and evidence still do not believe our findings, just ask RA3CO and YL2KL for their legal operating license in Colombia, anybody who has operated legally from Colombia in the past will surely provide their license. We requested this to the CQWW contest committee more than a month ago. Will we ever see a legal license from Colombia from any of these two �hams�? I believe not!


 
RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by HK3CW on January 15, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
And who in heaven are you to speculate on what has happened in Colombia? For God's sake, you have absolutely no idea what has happened, how it happened and what has been done to remedy the situation and here you are judging the whole situation. Who in hell gave you the authority to make assertions and pass judgment? Now are are even speculating on a operation that has not even begun (5K0CW), saying that it is illegal? That is is not a club call, that it was allotted to me and nobody else. How do you know that, have you seen the license, have you any idea what you are talking about? What an idiot! Don't worry about me or our operation, I am legal and if you don't think so, file a complaint. Who the hell are you? The only thing I can surmise is that you must be a illiterate thug with nothing to say but shoot at everybody and everything you "think" is not right. Get a life, be a real man and act as a ham, not a thug.
 
RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by HK3CW on January 15, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
>My post is directed to LU5DX...
 
RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by 4L5A on January 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Its interesting why you send letter to K3EST to DQ YL2KL and RA3CO and ignore all other operation against the same law?
Why you quired about YL2KL 3 years and start that story only now?
If you have problem with somebody there locally PLEASE dont transfer responsibility to YL2KL and RA3CO
Do it different way
Its not rigth to against the people who comedown to your country like guest and pay money for renting station and trust local amateurs and now get complains and requests to DQ
73 Al 4L5A
 
RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by LU5DX on January 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Hey Mr. Phd!

More of your yadi yadi yada!

Below you can see and excerpt from QRZ.com, and yes indeed 5K0CW is issued to you and it was going to be use not by someone else, but by three other different persons!

I really don't know how you tackled your Phd. If you cannot understand very simple text.

I never complained about your formal complain to your local PTT. That's fine. But such a respectful person as you are, should avoid bypassing the steps that lead to asking for DQing stations and making lobby to force CQ WW Contest Committee to act as you please. Your local PTT has said nothing about it. So you may consider shutting your yadi yadi yada mouth for a while and let your local authorities decide. Once they do, let CQ WW Contest Committee analyze the situation.
Everybody will respect the final decision they reach.

Keep insulting people! The more you do it, the more people realizes how valuable is your Phd!

Almighty Phd, thanks for unveiling who you really are through your words and through your lack of understanding.


Keep up the good work!!

Martin, LU5DX

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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by LU5DX on January 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Hi again Mr. Phd!

I overlooked your crappy note.
But now I see you say I'm a thug.

I looked it up in the dictionary and the result is:

One entry found.


Main Entry:
thug
Pronunciation:
\ˈthəg\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Hindi & Urdu ṭhag, literally, thief
Date:
1810
: a brutal ruffian or assassin : gangster , tough


So you are saying I'm a brutal ruffian or assassin.

That's how the holocaust started. By accusing people of things they were not!!!



Martin, LU5DX
 
RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by HK3CW on January 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
LU5DX you ignorant asshole...who says I cannot have a call assigned to me and three or more other hams? You in you ignorance? Who says the call was only issued to me? You in your stupidity? Grown up and stop speculating and know what you are talking about. You have not even seen our license and who it was issued to or anything else. Because you read and post that says who will operate you invent that the call is fake or illegal..what an idiot! As I said before, if you believe we are not legal, file a complaint, send letters to the ARRL, RGSB or whoever your twisted mind thinks..who the hell do you think you are to just suggest we are illegal? How do we know your call is legal? How do we know who you really are. My Argentinean friends tend to think and have accused you openly of cheating in more than one contest. Now let's talk about you, do you really use low power when you say you do, are you using the cluster when you say unassisted..many say you don't...
 
RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by LU5DX on January 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
HK3CW!

5K0CW till yesterday was issued to you. And you were planning to let other two ops use it.

According to your friends that is not allowed by your HK regulations. Not even for multi op entries.

Your friends requested RA3CO/YL2KL to show scanned copies of their licenses. You should go ahead and do the same!

As far as packet cluster is concerned. Most of my entries in the past ten years are either in Multi Op Categories or in All Band Assisted. I can only recall just a couple of exceptions, where I was guest op at respectful people's stations. So you are accusing them too!!

I guess I only entered Low Power Categories twice, and yes I was using low power. And when I run high power I use lot less that I'm allowed to!! You stupid jerk! Ask my friends what I think of abusive power you idiot! Specially on CW!

I always promoted the Packet distinction to be eliminated precisely to avoid cheaters to claim being Single Ops!

Tell your LU friends to tell me what they tell you in my face and to stop accusing people like cowards do! With false accusations, without proof, and just to promote they freaking ideology, just like "de facto" governments servants used to do! Precisely here in LU!!


Martin, LU5DX
 
RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by HK3CW on January 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
LU5DX...where are you getting your information? Who says that 5K0CW was only issued to me? You are speculating again, you don't know jack! What proof do you have? And now, I was not planning, I am planning and I will be in the 160 mts contest, with my friends even if your jealous arrogant ass doesn't like it. I have nothing to hide just because you make wrongful and stupid accusations.
On the accusations you were the first to do it and when I accuse you, you call them cowards..so what were you when you started to accuse me and other HKs.
I will show my 5K0CW license to the authorities, not a stupid jerk who thinks he is bigger than life. Who are you to ask me for my license, show me yours. I am legal with my call and with the call 5K0CW. Strange how you ignorants start accusing whoever blows a whistle on RA3CA and YL2KL, what are you hiding, what are you after? Who are you so strangely defending? We HK's are men enough to say and complain, and file complaints and let the world know what we are after.
You on the contrary defend the unjustifiable, trying to discredit me and other HKs. How low can you get? Can you sleep at night? What kind of person are you, a blood sucking maggot?
If you have problems in Argentina with all the rest of contesters don't blow your steam here with others. Be legal, don't cheat in contests, as you have so for so many years. LUs know what you do and who you are, don't act stupid now..you very well know who has accused you in LU and who they are...using the stupid card now...pathetic!
 
RE: A wake up call to contest organizers Reply
by LU5DX on January 16, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
HK3CW.

By now I really I wish you were here to say what you are saying to me!!

You just cannot have a call assigned to more than one person in your country. If you have it it will be against your local regulations idiot!


http://www.mincomunicaciones.gov.co/mincom/src/user_docs/Archivos/normatividad/1995/Decretos/D02058d1995.pdf

http://www.mincomunicaciones.gov.co/mincom/src/user_docs/Archivos/normatividad/1997/Decretos/D02765d1997.pdf


I have no problems with any contesters here in LU.!
Your LU friends are cowardly telling stories about high power, packet cluster abuse, special callsings in use by LUs but not issued by our local PTT! All crap.

Just for your freaking information I've updated the listing of my contest entries so you can see I'm mostly SOAB (A) or MS/M2/MM.
When I was mostly SOSB in the 90s I used to contest with pencil and paper!! So what cluster abuse are you talking about???? I didn't even had a clue on how to connect packet cluster capabilities under DOS!!! And we even entered many MS/M2/MM without cluster at all till we started using N1MM logging soft in 2004/5!!

http://www.5bits.net/lu5dx_static/WEBPAGES/LU5DX_CONTEST_ENTRIES-updated.htm


You jerk!


Martin, LU5DX
 

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