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by HK3CW on January 16, 2009
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Lu5dx I'm about done with you and your idiotic accusations...where did you learn to read? I guess all you do is jerk off because you have no idea what you are saying. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and your interpretation of our regulations is obviously wrong.
You do have problems in LU and with a lot of people, don't say you don't, many despise your wrongful practices and disloyal contest antics. It was only a couple of days I starting asking LU's about you and the storm of complaints and arguments about you are astonishing! What a couple of emails cans do!
I can care less of your internet spots and you. Just mind yourself and your so called Argentinean friends..it seems you are not so popular as you think. Many are backstabbing you as you participate in this "dialogue". Have luck in the shit hole you call home and with your "friends"..
I won't answer any more of your anguished replies, take care of business at home, kill the skeletons in your closet then you can begin to judge and accuse the world.
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by LU5DX on January 16, 2009
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HK3CW.
You are the pathetic one here. I really have no clue who those LU that are accusing me of cheating are!
At least they never filed a formal complaint. I never received a single notification from my local PTT, or from any contest organizer.
As far as abusive power is concerned you can check the listing of stations I've been entering contest from. Always running less than what I'm allowed to. Using old L4Bs, TL922s, Alphas, Heathkits, maybe not wining but reaching world wide standings with 700-800 Watts.
But, well, maybe your LU friends specialize in this type of false propaganda. Maybe similar methods they used in the past, precisely here in Argentina, when maybe they were de facto governments servants.
Who knows?
One thing is clear you really get along well with these kind of people!
Martin, LU5DX
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by LU5DX on January 16, 2009
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HK3CW!
Don't talk about being popular!
First of all I don't think I'm popular at all!
I just can't even reproduce what most of the HK fellows I contacted say about you!!
They are so afraid of publicly saying what they think of all this crap you are promoting because of your mad practices and false propaganda accusations!
Before calling my home a shit hole, wash your mouth, look at yourself in the mirror and remember what you've done to your people,you freaking looser!
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by LU5DX on January 16, 2009
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For sure your LU friends must be backstabbing me!!
No wonder that's what cowards do best!
Main Entry:
Function:
noun
Date:
1946
: betrayal (as by a verbal attack against one not present) especially by a false friend
� back�stab \-ˌstab\ verb
� back�stab�ber \-ˌsta-bər\ noun
Sure your crap is all a verbal attack against somenone not present! In this case in your sordid email exchange with nefast people!
They are really good at doing it because they had been trained in defamation techniques long time ago. (with salaries payed with people's money)
All your creepy way of thinking, and acting, generating rumors with false accusations, that have never been proved led to the HOLOCAUST in the past and also to genocide in my Country.
You dork!
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by lw2dx on February 21, 2009
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Hi everyone....
Best is yet to come....!! Pse stay tuned...
Fernando
LW2DX
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by HK3CW on February 26, 2009
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Yes indeed, the official reply from the Ministry of Communications of Colombia and all pertinent information in English and Spanish, prove our case against fraudulent operations in Colombia.
http://www.scribd.com/mincomco14544398
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by LU1DZ on February 27, 2009
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Dear friends:
Without translating the entire document, it clearly states that both the operations were illegal by Colombian law, since their law prohibits use of an amateur callsign by any other person, neither applied for permission to operate in Colombia, and there are no reciprocal agreements between Colombia and Russia or Lithuania.
Now I guess we'll see if CQ is serious about the integrity their contests or not ...
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Alberto LU1DZ
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Ending the controversy Juan Camilo HK3CQ send copy of the Colombian Ministry paper to K3EST.
"email from HK3CQ to K3EST":
Subject: RE: HK3AR and HK1AR Illegal operation
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:25:27 +0000
Dear Bob:
Please find attached one of the official responses from the Colombia Ministry of Communications.
As the CQWW Contest Committee requested, we filed a complaint to the Ministry of Communications with our proofs and facts.
Since we only received a response telling us the Ministry would start an investigation; the Colombian law provides a second manner to obtain a succinct and quick reply from government agencies, called a "Right to Petition".
We asked the PTT to provide 10 answers to 10 direct questions we made.
The Ministry had 15 business days to respond to our request and here is the official reply.
We did not translate the Right to Petition as the answers are self-explanatory.
We are also proving you with a notarized letter sent to the Ministry of Communications by Wolfgang Torres, HK3RA, stating his case.
Therefore, based on your request and our complaint and Right to Petition we think you have the sufficient evidence to take the appropriate actions.
We have not saved efforts to gain the evidence you now have. Rest assured that we will continue to safeguard our country�s regulations from illegal and fraudulent operations and we are acting as a group of more than 20 ham radio operators/contesters in Colombia.
We would greatly appreciate that you inform us of the actions taken, if any, in regard to our request.
Thanks again for your cooperation,
Juan Camilo Rodr�guez HK3CQ
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by g4odv on May 11, 2009
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I have only just belatedly come across this thread and must confess that I am surprised to see it petered out without any serious comment from the US contesting fraternity. Maybe that was because it degenerated into a dog fight and there were an awful lot of red herrings and irrelavances introduced into the discussion.
The complaint made by the Columbian contesters is a serious one which goes deep into the roots of contesting ethics. The only comment from a single US station is that it should be kept quiet. Guys over there, this is your contest, is sweeping things under the carpet the way that you wish the world to see you? Can we expect to see this complaint and how it was investigated and resolved subsequently published in the CQ mag report, or will there be a quiet DQ at the bottom of the results tables, or again, nothing at all if the findings are in favour of RA3CO? I do not know how previous matters of this nature have been handled by the CQ committee.
With every contest entry that we submit we append a declaration to the effect that 'This station was operated within the terms of my licence' this is black and white, simple as that. If we don't have a licence then we are not entitled to operate let alone enter a contest, end of! It is incumbent upon each and everyone of us to ensure that we hold an appropriate licence and it is of no use to say that we relied upon so and so to arrange it - it is our responsibilty to ensure that a proper licence is in place and we should be prepared to show that licence to anybody who has authority to request sight of it. Ask yourself would you go to a foreign country which does not have a reciprocal agreement with your own licensing authority without arranging your own visitors licence, well in advance for many countries?
I cannot really see why CQ committee did not ask RA3CO to produce his authority to operate, maybe they have as we do not know what goes on behind the scenes, but it is pretty clear to me that the Columbian hams know their own rules plus the fact that the owner of the call has declared that he did not give permission for his callsign to be used.
No matter how this issue is resolved it does raise an ugly face of a culture where anything goes and a disregard of adhering to rules and ethics of contest operating. Only publishing of the full facts will be the necessary brake as a warning to others.
Brian 5B4AIZ.
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by lw2dx on May 25, 2009
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http://www.radio-sport.net/hk_ra3co2.htm
cheers...!!!
Fernando
LW2DX
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by ec5kxa on June 8, 2009
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HK3CW, no deberías perder el tiempo con payasos y pelotudos, que defienden a los tramposos, porque son de su misma calaña.
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David
HK1KXA/EC5KXA
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