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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers
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by LU1DZ on January 9, 2009
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Martin LU5DX:
- This post was motivated for the lack of sincerity of a group of contesters (not amateur radios at all) who are broken the contest rules and/or the
telecom country law as an style of life.
- Some of those contesters use to acting toghether as an incipient ilegal association to articulate his public self defense when some other person ask for a punishment for their contest irregularities.
"Since when the wall is pissing the dog".
Muchos saludos
Best regards
Alberto U. Silva LU1DZ
WWSA Contest Manager
http://www.youtube.com/lu1dz
http://www.geocities.com/lu1dz
http://gacw.no-ip.org
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwsatest/
http://www.geocities.com/eetecar
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/uranito/
http://www.lu-escuelas.com.ar
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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers
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by LU1DZ on January 9, 2009
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I�m sorry, my english is so rusty.
For a better understanding, please replace last sentence by...
"When the wall started to peeing the dog...?"
"Never"
Muchos saludos
Best regards
Alberto U. Silva LU1DZ
WWSA Contest Manager
http://www.youtube.com/lu1dz
http://www.geocities.com/lu1dz
http://gacw.no-ip.org
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwsatest/
http://www.geocities.com/eetecar
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/uranito/
http://www.lu-escuelas.com.ar
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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers
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by LU5DX on January 9, 2009
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Al, LU1DZ.
Everyone here has treated you with respect. Maybe it's because of a strong language barrier for you. I hope you realize you are disrespecting those involved in this thread with no reason at all and with false accusations.
I also hope you realize hundreds of emails are circulating from fellows in Europe and the States and most of them talking about boycotting WWSA this year.
I feel very sad for all this. Specially because I always tried to support WWSA and now I see what you are doing is making contesters think you really are trying to hurt the Amateur Radio Sport ( Ham Radio Contesting)
May God help find clarity in your thoughts and in you soul.
With all due respect...
Martin, LU5DX
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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers
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by 4L5A on January 10, 2009
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Dear Martin,
Here is answer why LU1DZ is making her complains because he is inside the cartel
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwsatest/message/130
and even using South American contest website to advertize business of his friend
Propably Alberto like me to publish more info about his dirty job
I will do that
73 Al 4L5A
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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers
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by lw2dx on January 10, 2009
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Hi everyone now from a very cold Paris....
Boicot to wwsa...!!!
Guauuu....I wonder how this nice fellows from the States and Europe will boicot a contest when the test is on....Can anyone tell me how a test may be boicoted..?
BTW, is this the real "ham spirit" I read somewhere above. Let's boicot the test...!! GREAT...!!
May be I can shake hands with some of this nice european fellows...Is there any of them in Paris area...or may be in London, where I will be in 2 days..??....PSE...let me know...!!!!
I really want to know first hand how a test is boicoted...may be some day I may boicot the CQ WW...!!
Best regards
LW2DX
Fernando PROUD MEMBER OF GACW....!!!! VERY PROUD...!!
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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers
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by 4L5A on January 11, 2009
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I hope nobody will boicot any contest and that will be right
Boicot is not right way of fixing the things
73 Al 4L5A
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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers
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by LU5DX on January 11, 2009
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LW2DX:
The lines below define boycot and also they define what kind of person HK3CQ is. He may have all the degrees and PHDs in the world, but certainly knows nothing about law principles and most important knows nothing about ham spirit, even less about contesting. He's not a bit of a contester, nor ham radio at all:
-Extracted form www.radio-sport.net-
"The situation is so severe that many have said they will no longer participate in CQWW contests until the committee takes action." (HK3CQ Dixit, according to www.radio-sport.net)
BTW you stated that you don't want things to be resolved in a "ham spirit way"
So, maybe lots of former entrants of WWSA wanna make you taste a bit of your own medicine.
I really hope that's not the case. WWSA is the most important contest managed by a South American Group and it would be really sad to see participation decrease because of all this crap generated by HK3CQ.
73
Martin, LU5DX
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A wake up call to contest organizers
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by vk2cz on January 11, 2009
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I don't anyone here from a bar of soap... but can we ask Dimirti & Girts & Tony to provide a PDF or image of their authorisation documents from the Colombian Ministry of Communications, or, ask the Colombian Ministry of Communications for a copy of any authorisation documentation provided to these visitors � to go to the contest event organisers.
I�m assuming Columbia has some type of Freedom of Information, more than likely it is the same as Australia where FOI can cost quite a few dollars.
Gee.. if anyone queried my operating authorisations, I always keep a PDF copy on my thumbdrive, as well as a certified copy for customs/immigration, and can provide these in 20 seconds flat.
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by 4L5A on January 11, 2009
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Dear David
Problem is not license because in all situation YL2KL and RA3CO is operate like guest operators
Problem is that same things locals is do and they are complaining now only about those 2
Even now in CQ WW 160M going to be active 5K0CW and I dont know if its club call or individual If individual then its again against they are law
Law need to be same for everyone
Asking to DQ when you your self not following law its very wrong
Also you can see LU1DZ advertizing he say nothing about license only talking about keyer
73 Al 4L5A
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RE: A wake up call to contest organizers
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by LU5DX on January 12, 2009
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Extracted from LU1DZ's article
"In addition, the operation is not permitted by Colombian law as cited in Chapter VII, Article 76, Section 9 of the rules that regulate amateur radio activities in that country, that states "The use of one's callsign by any other person is prohibited".
Well, I wonder why in QRZ.com there are several HK licenses under diferent individual names. There is one case where three different individuals are listed under the same callsign, yet that callsign is belongs to an HK citizen.
I also wonder how Multi Operations have been taking place when callsigns issued were issued to one individual person and are supposed to be used only by it's holder.
I wonder where all that HK3CQ's Almighty Airwaves WATCH DOG POWER was, when those operations took and take place!
Colombian law says nothing about Multi Operations, thus there is no exception at all.
Stop saying that those who don't endorse HK3CQ's actions are willing to break contest rules or radio regulations.
No one wants that. We only want at least the situation to be clarified by the pertaining authority, before naming names in a public forum. And even worse suggesting what CQ Contest Committee should do!!
First at least take a look at who are CQ WW Contest Committee at http://www.cqww.com/contact.htm
And then with all possible sincerity analyze if you deserve the right to even suggest them what to do in a situation like this!
73
Martin, LU5DX
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