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Re: [RFI] Mystery Noise (Aren't they all)

To: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>, "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>, Wes Stewart <n7ws@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Mystery Noise (Aren't they all)
From: "Dave (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 17:09:04 -0800
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Ed,
Here is a funny story about just that...  I was getting set to help a friend do some RFI hunting for his area...  We discussed the whole home switch throw, and he said he already did it.  Having heard this a number of times, and getting burned believing people, I told him I always start with a whole home power kill...  He refused, and I told him I was not going o RFI hunt until we did a whole home power off...  After three days he called and said he had done a whole home power off and his RFI ended...  We laughed about it, and I went to his place to find the RFI...  It was a touch lamp...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 1/29/24 16:39, Hare, Ed, W1RFI wrote:
I agree; with no change, the noise is probably external, but do keep in mind 
that some UPS devices or devices connected to them may still be powered on, 
although in that case, I'd expect to see some change.

And no need for an apology.  Tracking down RFI can be darn tricky. If anything, you can 
be proud of having a mind open enough to backtrack and find what really is a minor 
misstep. When I worked in the ARRL Lab, many hams with RFI problems would not go back and 
look again at things they were "sure" they tested right.

You are going to find this.


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From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> on behalf of Wes Stewart via 
RFI <rfi@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 4:55 PM
To: rfi@contesting.com <rfi@contesting.com>; dave@nk7z.net <dave@nk7z.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Mystery Noise (Aren't they all)

Sadly, no.  A mea culpa and apologies to all who replied.  When I removed power 
to the shack, of course the KAT500 antenna tuner turned off.  I had put it in 
bypass mode, however, that wasn't good enough since it defaults to port one and 
my vertical was on port three.  So effectively, I disconnected the antenna when 
I removed power.  When I reran the test today with a jumper around the tuner, 
there is no change in the noise with the house un-powered.
I am satisfied that the noise is external.

I don't know whether I can make attachments on this site.  If so, I have some 
screen shots.

     On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 09:10:35 AM MST, Dave (NK7Z) 
<dave@nk7z.net> wrote:

  Hello,

This indicates that the RFI is in your home.  This is great news, it
means you can fix it as fast as you want, and you don't have to wait on
people...  Take a look at:

https://www.nk7z.net/i-have-rfi-now-what-locating-it/

I have a handy flow chart there that may help you locate the RFI...

Please report back on what you find it to be...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 1/28/24 19:50, Wes Stewart via RFI wrote:
In conversation with the tech a few days ago I offered to battery power
my TS-890 and turn off the whole house breaker.  When I did the noise
went from S9+10 dB down to about S4, but it was still there!

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