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Re: [RFI] Tip on approach to, or where to start looking for new noise so

To: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Tip on approach to, or where to start looking for new noise source
From: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2023 09:48:36 +0000
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<But, first, exercise your breakers at home and if you can, run your receiver / 
transceiver on battery power so you can shut off the entire house to start your 
search.>

I can't emphasize enough how important this is. Get a battery-operated receiver 
and connect it to your antenna. Then, flip off all of the breakers in your 
house.  If the noise goes away, it is you!  If so, turn the breakers back on, 
one at a time, and note any noise increase. Turn that breaker off (important!) 
and move on to the next breaker.

Be on the lookout for devices that may have a backup battery, keeping them "on" 
when the breaker is off.
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From: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 3:32 PM
To: Hare, Ed, W1RFI <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Cc: k9mk@flash.net <k9mk@flash.net>; RFI List <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Tip on approach to, or where to start looking for new noise 
source

And another thought:

Every Christmas RFI complaints increase only to drop off after New Years.  You 
might wait (and hope) that it disappears after the holidays.  If not, 
will.........time to DF.

But, first, exercise you breakers at home and if you can, run your receiver / 
transceiver on battery power so you can shut off the entire house to start your 
search.

Dave - WØLEV

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 8:21 PM Hare, Ed, W1RFI 
<w1rfi@arrl.org<mailto:w1rfi@arrl.org>> wrote:
It can be useful to know broadly​ what it is, but this falls into very broad 
categories.

o Power line noise
o Cable or DSL leakage
o Electric fence
o Device in a home

It is the latter that can really trick you up, because even if you know it's a 
lamp dimmer, you still gotta' go find it, and what if some new device makes a 
similar noise?

Ed

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<rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com<mailto:arrl.org@contesting.com>> on 
behalf of David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com<mailto:davearea51a@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 3:18 PM
To: k9mk@flash.net<mailto:k9mk@flash.net> 
<k9mk@flash.net<mailto:k9mk@flash.net>>
Cc: RFI List <rfi@contesting.com<mailto:rfi@contesting.com>>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Tip on approach to, or where to start looking for new noise 
source

I occasionally detect an electric fence at my rural location.  Mine is a
very sharp pulse every second.  There are other designs and signatures that
serve the same purpose.

Why be so concerned with the "what it is" if it is interfering with your
operations?  Rather attempt to discover "where it is" and then attack the
problem.  Your wasting time and effort to determine specifically "what" it
is.  Do the DFing first and then you know what you are dealing with.

Dave - WØLEV

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 6:36 PM <k9mk@flash.net<mailto:k9mk@flash.net>> wrote:

> Greetings to the group,
>
>    This week I discovered something new on the HF bands.  It does get
> stronger on the lower bands.
>    I am not sure what it is (yet).  At first, I thought it was an electric
> fence but now I'm not so sure.
>    I'm seeing five on and off pulses.  The pulse duration is one second on
> (wideband noisy hash) and then off for three.
>    That repeats five times and then it goes quiet for about 30 seconds, and
> then repeats.
>
>    Has anyone else seen something with this signature?  Thanks in advance.
>
> 73, Mike K9MK
>
> PS: My QTH is rural, and the community is mostly cattle ranchers.
>
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