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Re: [RFI] Yagis and DFing

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Yagis and DFing
From: "Dave (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:01:10 -0800
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Alan,

Nice setup!  Thanks for sharing, now lets apply that to Amateur Radio!

Imagine a network of hams, all with low band rigs all slaved to the same frequency, and all phase coherent, all reporting RFI signal arrival times to a cloud... Now take that data, and treat it just like SHOTWATCH does for location of source... Arrival time trilateration could pin a source in real time to a location...

Oh well...  Not in my lifetime...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 12/31/22 07:38, Alan Higbie wrote:
While we are daydreaming about locating RFI sources with drones - here is more food for thought:
https://www.modernpowersystems.com/features/featurepotential-game-changer-finding-imminent-power-line-faults-before-they-happen-8025876/
 
<https://www.modernpowersystems.com/features/featurepotential-game-changer-finding-imminent-power-line-faults-before-they-happen-8025876/>

I am thinking this might be something like the sensors & algorithm system which allows for lightning detection.
Blitzortung.org

~ Alan K0AV

On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 8:03 AM Dave (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net <mailto:dave@nk7z.net>> wrote:

    Ed,
    I was board one day a few years ago, and took out with my mobile rig,
    and its rear mounted vertical...  I plotted signal strength points all
    around a known RFI source to see if an isoline map might help locate a
    hard to find source...  It actually did indicate the area for the
    source
    quite accurately...  One of these days, I will actually use that
    process
    in a locate...

    I have this dream of a drone, a computer, more programming experience,
    and money than I currently have...  Wouldn't it be cool to just let a
    drone off, have it grid up an area, take signal strength readings at a
    set altitude, then have a computer take the results and create either a
    heat map, or an isoline map...

    Anyway, someday I may tackle that project but not soon...

    73, and thanks,
    Dave (NK7Z)
    https://www.nk7z.net <https://www.nk7z.net>
    ARRL Volunteer Examiner
    ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
    ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

    On 12/31/22 06:40, Hare, Ed, W1RFI wrote:
     > If you are trying to locate a noise source, if a directional
    antenna is available at the ham's QTH, that is the place to start.
    It will give a general direction for that walk-around.
     > ________________________________
     > From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com
    <mailto:arrl.org@contesting.com>> on behalf of Pete Smith N4ZR
    <pete.n4zr@gmail.com <mailto:pete.n4zr@gmail.com>>
     > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2022 8:03 AM
     > To: rfi@contesting.com <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
    <rfi@contesting.com <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>>
     > Subject: Re: [RFI] Yagis and DFing
     >
     > Or use a Moxon which has a deep null off the center of the back
     >
     > 73, Pete N4ZR
     >
     > On 12/30/2022 7:19 PM, David Eckhardt wrote:
     >> Use the sharp *nulls off the sides* of the Yagi.  They are far
    sharper than
     >> the "gainy" front lobe.
     >>
     >> Dave - WØLEV
     >>
     >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 12:01 AM Jim
    Brown<jim@audiosystemsgroup.com <mailto:jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>>
     >> wrote:
     >>
     >>> Remember that Yagis only have their intended directivity in the
     >>> frequency range for which they are built.
     >>>
     >>> 73, Jim K9YC
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