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Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI System

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI System
From: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 21:39:39 +0000
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That is WAY different from "S6 to S9" so I am glad that I challenged that 
statement.  That kind of hyperbole ends to damage a process that is, for the 
most part, working far better than we have had in years past, and if she or 
others at the FCC were to receive a barrage of emails with anger over what was 
a very false and misleading statement about FCC not considering S9 to be 
harmful interference, this could impact the work that is being done on a number 
of cases of interference.  I am very familiar with the case in question, and 
Smith was sent a video that showed S1 noise on the receiver S meter, which was 
interpreted as, well, S1 noise.  She probably would not have even drawn that 
line in the sand but for the fact that it was demanded of her that she did, so 
she determined that in this case, the evidence shown to her did not demonstrate 
harmful interference.  The interference may very well be louder at times, but 
that is what was sent and when a demand was made that she determine w
 hether the case was harmful interference as described by the rules, she 
responded.

Solar Edge is still working on a better design, and we do have them committed 
to try this in a few cases, but they are concentrating on cases that are not as 
confrontational because those have a greater likelihood of success.  We will 
build on that success.

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI System

Ed,



Please remove Ms. Rosenworcel from this conversation.



It was Laura Smith, FCC Special Council, that made the comments what she
considers harmful interference and that the FCC will not step in regarding
this issue.



Maybe Ms. Smith made that comment on her own so Ms. Rosenworcel was not
aware.



So in context:

(Quote)

I will provide an official response:



First, so long as Solar Edge continues to work with the ARRL towards finding
a technical solution to the issue, the FCC will not step in.



Second, a noise level of S1 (or even S3) does not rise to the level of
"harmful" and the only person who can make that determination is me and I
have made it.

Laura Smith



Laura L Smith, Esq. | Special Counsel | Spectrum Enforcement Division |
Enforcement Bureau | Federal Communications Commission | 717-338-2577

(Unquote)



It may not be until smarter people than me can rewrite Parts 15 and 18 to
handle the new digital age, led and grow lights, solar panels and the
countless other devices that radiate RFI before we see a reversal in this
trend.



That will be a long and complicated road that at the moment is not on the
agenda.



73,

Randy

WX5L





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Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI System



Here is the list of the statements from the FCC Chair. I didn't see anything
in the titles that looked as if it might contain the statement that Randy
read, but maybe if he looks at the list, it will jog his memory.  It would
be important to see that in context.

https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership/jessica-rosenworcel#statements


 <https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership/jessica-rosenworcel#statements>
Jessica Rosenworcel | Federal Communications Commission

Federal Communications Commission Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel believes
that the future belongs to the connected. She works to promote greater
opportunity, accessibility, and affordability in our communications services
in order to ensure that all Americans get a fair shot at 21st century
success.

www.fcc.gov<http://www.fcc.gov> <http://www.fcc.gov>



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Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI System



No flames, Randy - just a request for the source
of the statement attributed to Ms. Rosenworcel,
the FCC chairperson.  I can't believe any FCC
senior appointee would make a qualitative or
quantitative assessment of interference potential/severity of any
unintentional RF emitter.

Thanks in advance, and 73,
Mike, K8CN
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There have been comments that the ARRL has the FCC's ear. Really do they?

Recently Jessica Rosenworcel , FCC chairwomen has made a statement about
issues with Solar Edge RFI and said that S-6 to S-9 is NOT harmful
interference. On what basis can she make that determination. Does she know
what an S unit is?  Has she been advised from a technical support group to
make that comment?

The FCC's should not label harmful interference with an S-meters reference.

I would be confident to say of there would be s-6 interference to a fire
department, ambulance service or aircraft control tower that would not be
tolerated but as amateurs we must tolerate it in the eyes of the FCC.

Now let the flame throwers commence.

73,

Randy
WX5L

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