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Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI Victim

To: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>, "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI Victim
From: James Gordon Beattie Jr <w2ttt@att.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 15:33:39 +0000
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Ed,
I think you're raising the point that the current standards for radiated and 
conducted emissions are seemingly inadequate and need to be revisited.

Naturally, equipment vendors and manufacturers are going to "push back", but 
these emissions are blanketing the spectrum from DC to light (metaphorically).  
We need quantified measurements and their effects documented in order to start 
making the case for improved standards in both FCC Part 15 and Part 18. It's 
not just an Amateur Radio issue.  It impacts AM and FM radio, OTA television, 
public safety and aviation, cellular and potentially other services.  The only 
way to proceed is to collect measurements and the impact on these and other 
services.



73,
J. Gordon "Gordie" Beattie, Jr., W2TTT
201.314.6964
W2TTT@ATT.NET
Gordon.BeattieJr@VIAVISolutions.com


Get On The Air!

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From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w2ttt=att.net@contesting.com> on behalf of Hare, Ed, 
W1RFI <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 9:57:18 AM
To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>; rfi@contesting.com 
<rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI Victim

On what basis do you believe that the SE equipment is in violation of the 
emissions limits, Pete? The FCC rules set limits on radiated emissions above 30 
MHz and on emissions conducted onto the AC mains below 30 MHz.  There is no 
emissions limits on radiated or conducted emissions below 30 MHz on any wiring 
except the 120/240 volt AC mains.
________________________________
From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> on behalf of Pete Smith 
N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 9:35 AM
To: rfi@contesting.com <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel RFI Victim

I'm just curious - have you contacted the FCC., or has the ARRL done so?
This seems like a clear case of SolarEdge violating emission limits,
which they are supposed to care about.

73, Pete N4ZR
One of the RBN team

On 12/10/2022 8:16 PM, Tony wrote:
> All:
>
> A few years ago, I posted a video on solar panel RFI and it's affect
> on HF. Since then, I've heard from many hams who've experienced the
> same issue. Most send emails but a few post comments on my Youtube
> channel like the one below received yesterday from MI5UTC in Ireland:
>
> "I see exactly the same here with my recently installed SolarEdge
> system. My IC7300 is pretty much unusable during the day until it gets
> dark."
>
> One of the saddest comments was received last year from a 15 year old
> SW listener Nick:
>
> "I'm only 15, and super into MW and SW radio, my parents installed
> solar panels only a few years ago, and I knew it would cause
> interference. At least by nightfall they shut off for dxing."
>
> The common denominator in nearly all of these solar panel RFI cases
> (including my own) are systems manufactured by SolarEdge. My case with
> this company is 6 years old and has yet to be resolved. See:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9awWs4mwC4
>
> Thankfully, the ARRL continues to work with SolarEdge to find a solution.
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
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