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Re: [CQ-Contest] Single band rule WPX RTTY

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Single band rule WPX RTTY
From: wa1fcn <wa1fcn@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:22:26 -0600
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        Randy I'll take back my last post  as in CQ WPX CW and SSB FAQ   the rule is there.  It's just that

        there is no  FAQ for WPX RTTY.    At least I did say I thought you were correct.

                    73  BoB WA1FCN

On 2/10/2022 2:02 PM, Randy Thompson wrote:
The rule does cover this.  The FAQ is to help people understand how that rule 
is interpreted.  Otherwise the rules would be tens or hundreds of pages.

As for your category change example...  going from QRP to High power doesn't 
invalidate any of the QSOs that were made.  Same is true for someone who 
decides to turn on the cluster later in the contest.  As long as they enter 
assisted, then all QSOs made are within the category rules and therefore don't 
violate any rules.



From: Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 2:19 PM
To: Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
Cc: wa1fcn <wa1fcn@charter.net>; cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Single band rule WPX RTTY

If something is not allowed the rules really should state it. I shouldn't have 
to QSY to another set of rules to find this out.

Also: who here hasn't changed their intended category in the middle of a 
contest? Like deciding QRP wasn't working and turning up the power for the rest 
of the contest? (I realize going the other way doesn't work.)

Seems like this "rule" is anti-activity and arbitrary.

73 jeff wk6i


On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:06 AM Randy Thompson 
<k5zd@outlook.com<mailto:k5zd@outlook.com>> wrote:
This  is covered in the CQ WW rules FAQ.

https://www.cqww.com/rules_faq.htm<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cqww.com%2Frules_faq.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd069b767f9fa4357720a08d9ecca2c90%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637801175343463807%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=p9REas%2F7N12K2Izw8VHv6EyMt36VlC2gbVJS51Egczo%3D&reserved=0>

Q: For a single-band entry, is it allowed to be looking for multipliers on 
other bands to request a QSY, sked or even just asking if a multiplier is 
operating that band?

No, it is not. The rules state: "All entrants must operate within the limits of 
their chosen category when performing any activity that could affect their submitted 
score." Entering single band means that all activity to improve your score must be 
only on that band. You are permitted to work stations on other bands, but you are not 
allowed to ask them to QSY or make schedules.

Same in the CQ WPX rules FAQ.  The RTTY contests don't have an FAQ, but I think 
you can assume it would be similar.

You are certainly welcome to make QSOs on other bands while entering single 
band.  You just shouldn't ask for people to move to your band.  The guiding 
rule is this:

X. GENERAL RULES FOR ALL ENTRANTS:
A. Entrants must operate within the limits of their chosen category when 
performing any activity that could affect their submitted score.

73

Randy K5ZD


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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Single band rule WPX RTTY


GM All

          It has been a few years since I last read the rules so I decided to 
look them over.

          Actually I read them a few times.  My memory is not what it once was 
so maybe

          I remember wrong.  I could find no rule in regards to a Single Band 
operator

          who is competing on say 40 meters yet goes to 20 meters and ask if an 
operator

          there could QSY to 40.  I thought some years back that was against 
the rules.

          Remember I am talking about Single Band operation, not all band 
operations.

          Are we allowed to ask a 20 meter guy to QSY to 40 meters?  Yes I know 
it takes

          time and how often would you want to do it but that is not my 
question.

                  BoB WA1FCN
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