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At 12:54 10/15/2001, LogWindows@aol.com wrote:
>Ken,
>
>This is NOT what I said.
>
>First, Windows is a stable O/S, much more stable than dos. In my previous
>life, I wrote Operating System code for The Software Link, on the
>Multiuser/Multitasking version of DOS called PC-MOS. From that experience,
>and my time with Microsoft and my friends at Microsoft, I do know that both
>the 9X and NT based versions of Windows are much better code than DOS ever
>was.
>
>Second, the goal would have been to create a functionality equivalent of
>TRLog for the Windows O/S. While some features would be changed (i.e
>networking, etc), it would just take time to have a full featured version.
>
>The reason we didn't proceed with the project is that after I compiled the
>results of the survey, most users wanted a DOS version of TRLog that worked
>well under Windows. Many of the users didn't want to pay one dime for the
>Windows upgrade, even though I was going to invest over $100,000 to do it.
>
>Also, Tree would have gotten a royalty and W4SCO (owner of Log Windows) would
>have gotten a royalty from each sale (as they should), so I didn't see any
>way to repay the investment or even look at making a profit, if the current
>userbase wanted the Windows version for free or didn't want it all.
>
>And if any if you think that there is a profit in writing ham software, you
>may want to rethink you assumptions. :) The ham market is such a tiny
>market, even as compared to hobby markets like Stage Magic and woodworking.
>
>Rick - W4PC
Everything you say hear is true and it is too bad. I would have aid up to
100 dollars for a fully functional windows version of TRLOG and been happy
to do it. I know many would not. They are crazy and it is that attitude
that has killed it.
Instead, I had to pay the fee nearly that high for WriteLog and learn a new
program.
>In a message dated 10/15/2001 9:48:27 AM Central Daylight Time,
>kharker@cs.utexas.edu writes:
>
> > The proposed port of TR Log to Windows would have been done by W4PC and
> > others at Creative Services Software - not by Tree. W4PC did a little
> > research and concluded that TR Log users would not be likely to switch
> > from a stable, feature-rich product on a real-time OS to something that
> > (at least for a while would be) a developing, feature-poor product on an
> > unstable OS. You could argue that a better market to target would be
> > those who are not already invested in TR Log, but nonetheless, that's
> > why W4PC claims to have dropped the project.
> >
>
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At 12:54 10/15/2001, LogWindows@aol.com wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Ken,<br><br>
This is NOT what I said.<br><br>
First, Windows is a stable O/S, much more stable than dos. In my previous
<br>
life, I wrote Operating System code for The Software Link, on the <br>
Multiuser/Multitasking version of DOS called PC-MOS. From that
experience, <br>
and my time with Microsoft and my friends at Microsoft, I do know that
both <br>
the 9X and NT based versions of Windows are much better code than DOS
ever <br>
was.<br><br>
Second, the goal would have been to create a functionality equivalent of
<br>
TRLog for the Windows O/S. While some features would be changed (i.e
<br>
networking, etc), it would just take time to have a full featured
version.<br><br>
The reason we didn't proceed with the project is that after I compiled
the <br>
results of the survey, most users wanted a DOS version of TRLog that
worked <br>
well under Windows. Many of the users didn't want to pay one dime for the
<br>
Windows upgrade, even though I was going to invest over $100,000 to do
it. <br><br>
Also, Tree would have gotten a royalty and W4SCO (owner of Log Windows)
would <br>
have gotten a royalty from each sale (as they should), so I didn't see
any <br>
way to repay the investment or even look at making a profit, if the
current <br>
userbase wanted the Windows version for free or didn't want it
all.<br><br>
And if any if you think that there is a profit in writing ham software,
you <br>
may want to rethink you assumptions. :) The ham market is such a
tiny <br>
market, even as compared to hobby markets like Stage Magic and
woodworking.<br><br>
Rick - W4PC</blockquote><br><br>
Everything you say hear is true and it is too bad. I would have aid up to
100 dollars for a fully functional windows version of TRLOG and been
happy to do it. I know many would not. They are crazy and it is that
attitude that has killed it.<br>
Instead, I had to pay the fee nearly that high for WriteLog and learn a
new program.<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>In a message dated 10/15/2001
9:48:27 AM Central Daylight Time, <br>
kharker@cs.utexas.edu writes:<br><br>
> The proposed port of TR Log to Windows would have been done by W4PC
and<br>
> others at Creative Services Software - not by Tree. W4PC
did a little <br>
> research and concluded that TR Log users would not be likely
to switch<br>
> from a stable, feature-rich product on a real-time OS to
something that <br>
> (at least for a while would be) a developing, feature-poor
product on an<br>
> unstable OS. You could argue that a better market to
target would be <br>
> those who are not already invested in TR Log, but nonetheless,
that's <br>
> why W4PC claims to have dropped the project.<br>
> <br><br>
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