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Re: [TowerTalk] High VSWR

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] High VSWR
From: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 17:00:21 -0700
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I have been thinking about getting a big Steppir DB36.  You guys are scaring me 
off.   hihi

Bob
K6UJ





> On Sep 1, 2019, at 3:10 PM, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> On 9/1/19 11:41 AM, Doug Ronald wrote:
>> I would like to talk to you about that vane idea when I get further along on
>> the repair of this LP. Those back 4 elements are really heavy, so placing
>> the boom-to-mast mounting plate in the physical center of the boom would
>> have required massive counter weights on the high-frequency end of the boom.
>> There are already two counter weights there now with about 240 pounds weight
>> total.
>> The wind torque on this antenna is so much that I have to remove the drive
>> chain from the rotor in a storm to prevent breaking the shear pin in the
>> rotor.
>> If the vane idea will neutralize the boom's torque, what about the 104 foot
>> long back elements? In a steady wind, how will the antenna orient itself if
>> free to rotate 360 degrees? Of course now in a steady wind, the butt end
>> always faces the wind direction.
>> Doug, W6DSR
> 
> 
> I would also wonder about the elements flexing in the wind load. Both from an 
> oscillation standpoint (what's the first mode frequency?) and from a scenario 
> where the element bends, which changes the "projected area" relative to the 
> wind, so the drag changes, etc.
> 
> Of course, in some cases, there is "previous installation experience" to look 
> at - if there aren't any design changes, and they've got live experience with 
> the antenna not failing in a wind of X mi/hr.
> 
> But the whole resonant excitation thing is a challenge to model properly, 
> especially if the element is tapered (since the stiffness changes with 
> position along the element, as does the aeolian excitation frequency).
> 
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