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Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower foundation and bedrock
From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 10:46:11 -0700
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:33:30 -0700
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk]  Fwd:? Fwd: Tower foundation and bedrock

<In addition to Steve's cautions, I would add that crank ups depend on 
<the hoist cable strength to stay elevated (unless a locking tower which 
<is designed to be guyed when locked).  Guys add a lot of downforce on 
<the hoist cable, both from the preload, and then several times more at 
<max wind velocity.  So check out the design calcs for all cable loads 
<against its rated break strength.  Sheave and winch winding diameters 
<also affect the break strength as do the sheave axles.

<All together, the PE calcs I have would strongly advise against adding 
<guys to my HDX589.  If the analysis shows the bottom section or anchor 
<system is most likely to fail first, then I don't think there is much 
<downside to adding guys to it, since the ground level wind field 
<probably won't add a lot of tension to those guys.

<Grant KZ1W

##  You can not guy a US  TOWER product, period.   The only exception per  UST,
is  guying the  very bottom section.   IE:  guyed at the  21 ft level. 

##  Other brands of crank up towers  include  locking plates, that can be 
deployed, with the
tower  extended to any height..up to and including max height.    The locking 
plates  are typ installed
at the  21 ft level.   They take the stress  completely off the  drum cable.   
Those types of towers
can be guyed  on their upper sections.... but those types of towers  also have 
a cable for  EACH face
on all the upper sections.  Done that way, and sized  correctly, so the lifting 
cables  can handle the huge  pre-load
and also much more, at max wind velocity.   Worse case  scenario is when the 
wind is blowing between  2 x guy wires.
The downward  force on the tower is  now DOUBLE what it would be  vs   wind 
directly inline with  a  guy wire. 

##  Guyed  crank up towers have come down in the past, its not something new.

Jim   VE7RF 
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