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Re: [TenTec] Rigs at WRTC

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Rigs at WRTC
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:52:30 +0200
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ACTUALLY JON IS CORRECT.

In contesting Jon, you are correct.
However in WRTC, care is taken to try and give all contestants a similar
real estate.

I used to believe, "it's the antenna, stupid"... until I moved to my current
qth and noticed that the qth is even more important than the antenna.

Good point!


73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of k6jek
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 10:30 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Rigs at WRTC

I thought it was like real estate, location, location, location. Skill and
luck are needed of course but where your are matters a lot, doesn't it?

Jon



On Jul 25, 2014, at 12:42 PM, K8JHR wrote:

> Not so fast, Dick Tracy.   The argument clearly cuts both ways. A bit of a
dilemma, actually.
> 
> The list was, undoubtedly, posted to suggest what is a good contest radio.
> 
> But, if, he and you both suggest, the rig is actually immaterial, and it
all turns on operator skill and good fortune, then any discussion of what
radio is used is misplaced.   You cannot have both ways.  It is inconsistent
to say the rig does not affect the result, and then praise any one or more
radios as better contest radios because operators used them over other
options.  Either the rig matters, or it does not.  If it matters, then it is
a fact 5 of six 6 used by the top three teams were made by ICOM.  If it does
not matter, we should not try to draw any conclusion, or make any statement
about the radio based on contest use or result - because, as you say, it
does not matter.
> 
> From all accounts offered so far, the most likely reason teams chose the
K3s, is it is small light, and easy to travel.  If the rig is immaterial,
then any talk about the rig's technical and ergonomic prowess is logically
misplaced.
> 
> Or, if you want to say the rig matters, then we are back to the fact the
ICOMs stole the show.
> 
> ------------------ JHR  -------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/25/2014 9:57 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
>> This discussion by Jim, Rick, Carl and others is VERY interesting 
>> regarding WRTC.
>> 
>> The list of radios, brands and models and the number of each, 
>> including the logging programs used, adds tremendous creditability 
>> solely to the operators.  Again it to me points out the radio becomes 
>> a somewhat minor part of the success equation.  The major part 
>> clearly is the operators and their efficiency in the process using the
chosen tools at hand.
>> 
>> Jim, K9YC, did a fine analysis of various parameters supporting the 
>> final results.
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