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Re: [RFI] Multi-Stage High Efficiency Air Conditioner Units

To: r55stan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Multi-Stage High Efficiency Air Conditioner Units
From: James Jordan <k4qpl2@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 15:32:22 -0500
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Very good comment. All wires are capable of being “transmitting antennas”, even 
that little thermostat or relay control wire. And ferrets do more good for hams 
than squirrels 😀😀


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> On Feb 7, 2020, at 1:39 PM, <r55stan@gmail.com> <r55stan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was receiving some weak to moderate RFI from my Carrier HVAC unit.  I 
> installed a line filter and ferrites on the power chord.  That helped, but I 
> was not satisfied.  Then I installed ferrites on the cable to the thermostat 
> and that reduced the remaining RFI to extremely faint on a SDR display.  Just 
> about undetectable.  I consider that fixed.  The lesson for me on that 
> project was RFI can get out of a piece of equipment on EVERY conductor that 
> comes out of it.  I think we tend to only focus on the power chord because 
> for most appliances those are the only wires connected to it.  My only other 
> comment is a single pass through a ferrite probably won't reduce a strong RFI 
> source enough.
> 
> Randy KQ6RS
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+r55stan=gmail.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of James 
> Jordan
> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:27 AM
> To: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Multi-Stage High Efficiency Air Conditioner Units
> 
> Can't be specific on HVAC units, but the Schaffer line filters, available in 
> various amperage ratings from Mouser can be inserted in the power circuits. 
> Mouser 631-FN2070[ampere rating]. I Use them on Pentair variable speed pool 
> pumps at VP5 and they killed very nasty RFI from those motors. I would 
> negotiate with an installer of higher quality units (Carrier, Trane) (Avoid 
> the cheap Goodman, Coleman, etc.) that if the unit creates RFI that they will 
> install appropriate line filters. We have a top end Carrier variable speed 
> multi-stage unit and I'm not getting any RFI, but my hamshack is quite a ways 
> from it in a detached garage bonus room so it's still possible some is being 
> generated.
> Good luck.  The high efficiency definitely saves electricity.
> 73,
> Jim K4QPL
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:19 PM Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> My wife has been interested in increasing the efficiency of our air 
>> conditioner units. It seems that the only path to better efficiency is 
>> multi-stage/multi-speed units. I recall a lot of talk about the 
>> horrific RF noise these things generate. Does anyone know of RF-silent units?
>> 
>> Kim N5OP
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM, 
>> PP SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)
>> 
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>> Marsh, Chicago Sun-Times./
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