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Re: [CQ-Contest] Loss of Confidence

To: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Loss of Confidence
From: dimitri cosson <dimitri.cosson@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 21:27:34 +0100
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Hans,

Give the callsign directly, it'll be quicker:-D

⁣73, Dimitri F4DSK 

Le 15 nov. 2023 à 20:53, à 20:53, Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com> a écrit:
>Mike, the two that I flagged to the WAE manager aren’t rookies.
>
>I checked 3830 and both of them claimed scores > 240,000.  One operated
>SO2R.
>
>73, de Hans, KØHB
>“Just a Boy and his Radio”™
>________________________________
>From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com>
>on behalf of Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 11:57:45 AM
>To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Loss of Confidence
>
>Hey Hans,
>
>
>
>Nice writeup in NCJ.
>
>
>
>I barely do any RTTY so I don’t know who the culprits you’re referring
>to were however I suspect most offenders
>
>who’ve left out the RST have just programmed their F-key messages
>incorrectly.  If you’re willing to help, please email them directly and
>let them know privately that what they are doing is not in accordance
>to the rules.
>
>
>
>If these are indeed “Top 10” guys, I  call “shame on them” and they
>should really know better.(and maybe they do-keep reading)
>
>
>
>It’s mathematical.  (I bet they aren’t nefarious)_but if they are “Top
>10” guys, then they’ve likely done the math already and figured out
>that for, let’s say, 2000 QSO’s, they can shave maybe 2.5 seconds off
>each QSO.
>
>
>
>My abacus tells me 2000 Q’s x 2.5 seconds equals 5000 seconds saved
>during an entire contests’ duration.
>
>That 5000 seconds (1.38 hours? – is that right) can be time used making
>other QSO’s whereby their competition
>
>is still sending their proper 599’s.
>
>
>
>Look at 3830scores.com (or official results from WAE RTTY the last few
>years) and tell us if these are actual winners (in which case it makes
>a big difference) or whether (more likely) these were casual
>participants maybe not knowing any better.
>
>
>
>Let’s hope it’s the latter.
>
>
>
>Mike VE9AA
>
>--------------------------------
>
>
>
>During the WAE RTTY test this past weekend I came across a small
>handful of
>
>stations which did not include a signal report (RST) in the report. 
>Two of the
>
>stations were well known USA "competitors" who were on the air all
>weekend long.
>
>
>
>Below is an exchange of emails with the contest manager who seems not
>concerned
>
>about my inquiry.  His attitude seems to be "it happens all the time so
>we let
>
>it slide".
>
>
>
>73, de Hans, K0HB
>
>
>
>_____________​​​​​​______________________
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi Hans,
>
>
>
>thanks for participating in this years WAE-RTTY and your activity. Yes,
>you are
>
>right. 599 (or 59 in SSB) is a pure formality. And (especially in CW)
>we see
>
>strange abbrevations for the reports which do not fit with the rules of
>most
>
>contests. But with the time, contest managers from all over the world
>accept
>
>this on their contests. And for the WAE-RTTY we do so as well. But you
>are
>
>right, may be it is time, to align the contest rules for the RTTY- and
>
>CW-contests.
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks for your input and your comments. And hope to meet you in one
>the next
>
>events (may be CQWW-CW).
>
>
>
>
>
>/signature/
>
>
>
>Mike, Coreen & Corey
>
>Keswick Ridge, NB
>
>
>
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