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Contesting Online Forums : Articles : CQ WW Committee Seeks Input on Real Time Scoreboar Forums Help

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CQ WW Committee Seeks Input on Real Time Scoreboar Reply
by va7st on December 26, 2006 Mail this to a friend!
If online scoreboards ever turn into online logs (actually posting callsigns or sections of stations worked, for example) -- then there are big issues to grapple with. They are not like that, however. Basic online scoreboards are inert and will be good for contesting in all categories. Don't limit their enjoyment by lumping them in with the overt assistance of packet clusters.

I have used the getscores.org system whenever possible this fall. No hand-wringing angst necessary, folks. They sky is not falling, and my dear unassisted single operators have nothing to worry about with online scoreboards as they exist today.

Looking at an online scoreboard is no different than hearing what serial number another station is handing out (in contests with serial number exchanges). It gives you a sense of where you are, but nothing more.

More experience would show detractors of this tool that there's no aid being given, other than motivation to continue or to try harder.

Until there's some evidence that I am being assisted by using an online scoreboard, I'll keep using it and I'll be entering single op unassisted. And I will have a heck of a lot more fun in the contests than the guys who choose not to look at the scoreboard.

These are not online logs. They don't tell you where a band is open to (a tally of mults says nothing about where the mults are from).

Don't move me to an assisted category for using an online scoreboard. If that happens, the same should be done for everyone who reads 3830 postings during a contest (deriving motivation from others) or who uses propagation tools -- software or online (assuming you believe the red herring that an online scoreboard is a propagation indicator).

Let the scoreboards live, and let everyone who wants to enjoy them do so, regardless of category. It's about adding enjoyment, not adding assistance. If you haven't tried it first-hand, try it and you'll see. http://www.getscores.org

 
CQ WW Committee Seeks Input on Real Time Scoreboar Reply
by KG5VK on March 7, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
it's simply just another tool
and I have a hard time seeing how it can influence people to work someone that is using it
However the benifits are that it can get this attractive as a spectator sport, maybe.
Live scoreboards should be embraced !
steve
kg5vk
 
CQ WW Committee Seeks Input on Real Time Scoreboar Reply
by W9SWL on April 25, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
B0ZOS
 
CQ WW Committee Seeks Input on Real Time Scoreboar Reply
by NT4XT on July 12, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Sure feels like I was driving the pace car.
 
CQ WW Committee Seeks Input on Real Time Scoreboar Reply
by kk1l on July 12, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
I think this is a great idea. I don't view it as very useful for the serious operator to gain any advantage. It is something for the casual observer to watch. This past Field Day weekend I watched the faces of some kids really light up as they worked stations at the GOTA radio. They were truly excited counting the contacts they made. Real Time scoreboards are much like that. These kids in particular would really get into seeing how they are doing relative to others. They would be also be fascinated to see just how quickly the top dogs can rack 'em up.
 
RE: CQ WW Committee Seeks Input on Real Time Score Reply
by KT8K on October 11, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Last Field Day we had wi-fi logging (via N1MM) and it was a more fun than ever, a LOT more fun, watching the log entries live on my screen as stations competed to see who could rack up the Qs fastest. Next year we want to have a monitor at the visitor/information table to display the contest in progress (real time scoring), just only for our FD operation.

After reading all the preceding discussion, I am not sure that real time scoring is a problem, especially since the ops who take the time to look at it are probably slowing thier QSO rate. I hope you implement it.
Maybe the "unassisted" category should be limited to only stations that use NO computer at all? (Separately, how about a category for stations that have NO directional antennas beyond dipoles ...)

For the purposes of contest organizers, it is probably better to keep things simple as possible. Real time scoring sounds fairly easy and more fun than problems, and also could attract more people to the hobby who are of a competitive nature and intrigued by radiosport.
73 & tnx for all ur hard work de kt8k - Tim
 
CQ WW Committee Seeks Input on Real Time Scoreboar Reply
by OK1VWK on October 13, 2007 Mail this to a friend!
Be or not to be, thats question... I have had similar discussion in OL4HQ team about benefits when we are using internet logging software during IARU HFC, like WT, WL etc. I received different opinions for that. One opinion was no advantages, no benefits, only frustration from watching score next workplaces of HQ station. Second opinion was yes its super. We have info about other workplaces and its motivating for increase ourselves activity. I think its mainly about us, about anyone of us, our preferences. Each new thing or article brings new requirements for anyone who wants use them. The major problem is, we arent able to accept news, because do or use known things is more confortable specially for our brain. We would have to study news and search benefits not disadvantages from new things. Its too easy search disadvantages for new thing than advantages or benefits.

By this one I would like to say YES for RealTimeScoreboard activity.

73 de Milan,OK1VWK/OL7R team

 

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