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Cabrillo format implementation
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by n9rv on October 19, 2000
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I am grateful to the ARRL for sponsoring and reporting
in QST a large number of major league contests. However,
I think that the League is making a mistake in its
agressive implementation of the Cabrillo standard to
contest log submissions.
I am very much in favor of making things easier for log
checkers, but not at the expense of reducing activity
in the contest itself.
This decision by the League (which, to give them credit,
was announced a long time ago) follows other recent changes
in some major contests that have required hams to
repeatedly update their contest software. This is a
trivial matter for serious competitors, but a larger
obstacle for casual participants.
My advice to the ARRL would have been to phase-in Cabrillo much, much more gradually. The real-world of casual
contest participants is not as state of the art as software writers would like it to be.
- Pat
N9RV
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by K9NW on October 21, 2000
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I have never seen anything, anywhere that says what happens to Joe Casualcontester when he submits an electronic log other than Cabrillo. Does he get an email asking him to resubmit his log? Is he told he must upgrade his software? Does he get DQ'ed? What if he has no particular interest in having the latest and greatest version of whatever program...he just gets on to hand out a couple hundred QSOs?
As Pat alluded to, this is S.O.P for the serious competitor. What about the other 75% of the participants?
For the record, I'm FOR the Cabrillo standard.
73, Mike K9NW
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by KD1R on October 30, 2000
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Lets not get in an uproar over this one guys...
No one has taken away the ability to send in Non-Cabrillo format. Case in point go the the CQ site and check out the posting requirments for the ww's. Plenty of latitude is allowed. Just as ARRL has announced. Or did I miss something in my reading of the full article.
One last question how gradual are we talking here?
A year seems gradual to me, or are we talking several generations for full implmentation. I Don't think so.
Ralph Stetson, KD1R
a "Contest Dabbler" from VT.
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by KC4HW on November 1, 2000
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For the "Joe Casualcontester" and others not quite ready to take
the plunge and upgrade their contest software, there is another
option. Bruce WT4I has created a tools that will convert just
about any column based ASCII log into the Cabrillo format.
Check out WT4I's Contest Tools, including Cabrillo Converter at
www.WT4I.com
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by k3nd on November 7, 2000
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Redoing the ARRL DX Contest CW logs after the results were printed in QST was very unprofessional to say the least!! At first they said everyone had lost one mult per band due to error in software. Then when results were reposted many stations changed position in ranking due to, in some cases, hundreds of additional QSO's being added to each band !!! What gives ??? Where did these extra QSO's come from?? And for only certain stations!! Who do you have to know to get these extra QSO's added to your score??? They have to get it right before it goes into QST. This is not the first time this kind of BS has happenned. Lets get it right the first time !!!
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by k3nd on November 7, 2000
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Redoing the ARRL DX Contest CW logs after the results were printed in QST was very unprofessional to say the least!! At first they said everyone had lost one mult per band due to error in software. Then when results were reposted many stations changed position in ranking due to, in some cases, hundreds of additional QSO's being added to each band !!! What gives ??? Where did these extra QSO's come from?? And for only certain stations!! Who do you have to know to get these extra QSO's added to your score??? They have to get it right before it goes into QST. This is not the first time this kind of BS has happened. Lets get it right the first time !!!
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by KK7UZ on November 27, 2000
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If I'm not mistaken, non-Cabrillo logs are used as check logs only in ARRL contests. If someone could confirm/refute this I'd be glad to know for certain.
As a computer programmer who works with data exchange standards on a day to day basis, I have a few minor quibbles with the designers of the Cabrillo standard on a technical basis, but it beats the living daylights out of no standard at all.
Dan, KK7UZ
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