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by 9a6xx on July 1, 2004
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I think contesting is dynamic and fun enough as it is now - new technologies and all the skills you need to know for running a contest would satisfy and impress any young guy.
General problem can be seen even from this article.. you can see much more replies on some other articles like "how many hours do i operate contest", "so2r vs so1r" but when it comes to young people and talking about them it's just few guys that is actually doing it.
Untill this changes you can forget about idea that introducing new category will change something.. it wont! It will just open another place for an old guy to win something... this is just not enough!
Aint it sad to see that if one young guy wins a contest trip to VP5 turns into the biggest news of the year?!
Hrle - 9A6XX, NY6W, age 21
GO WWYC!
www.wwyc.net
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by N5LT on July 1, 2004
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Nice sentiment, but please NO MORE CATEGORIES! Didn't this all get hashed out 10 years ago. The kind of kinder, gentler, "gee, gosh, we're all winners".
I started and stayed with a tribander and wire for years and years. I got beat by better operators, but I beat my share of bigger stations too. It made me a much better operator in the long run. If you don't want to compete then don't enter. Please quit looking for a way to make everyone 'feel special'.
As for finding younger contesters I think that will happen when we find younger amateurs. The real issue in no new young contesters is that we don't really have many new young amateurs.
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by VK6VZ on July 2, 2004
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G'day
I totally agree with Jukka - get rid of the Single Operator High Power (All Bands) category in the CQ WW contests and replace it with the TS category. Let's keep this category down to to realistic surburban antenna heights - say 66' (20m) for the tribander and a maximum of 66' (20m) average height for single wire antennas for the low bands.
This would truly open up the world's biggest contests to ordinary people and the young. I am willing to bet that within three years this would be BY FAR the most popular/most entered category in the both CQ WW contests. It would be like a worldwide WRTC contest every year!!
The TS category should be the most prestigious category to win as well - as it has the most relatively level 'playing field' of all the categories.
Vy 73
Steve, VK6VZ
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by KY1V on July 5, 2004
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Hrle,
I don't understand your comment...
"Aint it sad to see that if one young guy wins a contest trip to VP5 turns into the biggest news of the year?!"
What is wrong with encouraging young hams to get involved in contesting by taking them on a free trip to a DX location during a major contest?
This concept has not only recieved world wide recognition, but has had a tremendous impact on the young ham whom won last year. He is making his second trip to the Caribbean to operate PJ2HQ in the IARU contest this week. In addition, the Yankee Clipper Contest Club has started a program to help other young hams go on DXpeditions.
I am really having difficulty understanding your comment. Why don't you send an essay yourself? You are eligible for the VP5 trip!
Best Wishes
David, KY1V / VP5X
www.vp5x.com
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by 9a6xx on July 6, 2004
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I just wanted to say this should be normal thing and not the big news. There should be many more "programs" like this..
Young hams are rarely supported in any way, not just like this!
My whole point, still very few people care about youngesters to even exist in this hobby!
I wish somebody could convince me I'm wrong!
Hrle - 9A6XX
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by s5m on July 6, 2004
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OO Hrle, I am trying to convince you since WRTC-2000!
73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU
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by w1jq on July 6, 2004
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I sort-of like the idea of an "all wire" class as a distinct specialty--no aluminum (wood or bamboo is OK), no artificial supports, but any number of wire elements. But I'm not really comfortable with the proliferation of contest categories. I'm not convinced that TS helps to get "younger people" into the hobby (ham radio in general or contesting in particular)--seems to me that just a low power category is sufficient. There are some super-stations that run LP, but they are few enough that you can do reasonably well SOLP just by being stubborn and putting in more time than the next guy. You get hooked on contesting by operating in one, not by the possibility that you can "win."
BTW, I'd hazard a guess that the average age of active contesters is younger than the average of hams in general. Not to say that there isn't a problem. But I think you need to understand the problem before you can solve it.
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by KB3LGB on July 12, 2004
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The best way I know of to get young people, teens, involved in contests is to start a special group in your local radio club for kids. The Anne Arundel Radio Club of Maryland has a "kids" division and they set up their own field day location. Our young people feel "connected" to the club as they have "their own thing" and a core group of adults willing to spend the time and money to encourage them in this hobby.
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by K0SV on August 3, 2004
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I agree with Joe KB8KJU on creating a class known as multi-op low power. My son and I contest together most of the time. We don't own a linear amp or a fancy ant. setup. We always compete in the multi-op category because there is no other category for us to operate together in. He holds a tech class license and is working on upgrading to general. We will never be able to be competitive in the multi class due to this and I find that he is starting to lose interest in contesting. By the way, he's 14 and been licensed for over 4 years. I don't think that the Tribander Single Element class would do much to improve the age of our up and coming operators. Just my .02 worth
Charlie K0SV
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by VK4TI on August 5, 2004
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Hi Guys,
Even in the remote areas like VK the tribander class has a lot of appeal, new tribander arrives this weekend :-0
The word being forgotten is CONTEST and to make it a contest some ground rules need to be adehered to such as category rating. I really like the concept of TRIBANDER single element as it suits me with a Hy Tower in the yard and a TH3 soon to arrive..
Cheers
Trent vk4ti
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