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If any group could sponsor a "contest within a major contest" such that the exchange, starting and ending dates and times were precisely those specified by the major sponsor but the categories and the rules for scoring were of the sponsoring group's design who would you submit a log to?
  Posted: Feb 01, 2003
  (358 votes, 9 comments)
by VE5ZX
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What's next?
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Those who will fail to win piece of paper in 24 hour contest, will start asking for 6 hours, 3 hours, 1 hour,...?
Yea, lets have a category for SO2R, SO3R, SO4R, tribanders, fourbanders, fivebanders, Dipoles, Tricycles, 4wheelers .....
This will give one real satisfaction where heshe stands.
If someone asked to judge marathon for 12 miles, 6 miles ... it would be considered ridiculous, but in ham radio this is "great", just like "working" DX on the list. RF must be getting into some brains. Lets stay sane and forget the garbage. Spend your time in improving your station and honing your operating skills, rather than figuring the "advantages".
Yuri
P.S.
Yea, let the CQ run contests, and some clever heads will take a free ride on it. Only hams can be so "inventive"
Posted by
K3BU
on February 10, 2003
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UBN/LCR
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Sylvan, you make a good point. Also, having the operator send in a textual UBN report would be a potential source of mischief. Perhaps the CWC sponsors/participants will simply have to tolerate a significant reduction in the percentage of QSOs checked for the immediate future.
Mike N2MG
Posted by
N2MG
on February 6, 2003
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Open Source log check/scoring software
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Unfortunately, if CWC were to adopt a policy that "those submitting to the CWC must also supply their final UBN/LCR reports (generated by the "real" sponsor) in order to qualify" is probably unworkable because you usually have to be a member of the sponsoring organization to get this information. This will exclude a lot of contestants. A foundation notion of CWC is to encourage more participation in contests by addressing a wide variety of concerns and needs of the International contesting community. Perhaps we need some open source log checking/scoring software that is built and maintained by the contest community for use by all CWC sponsors.
Posted by
VE5ZX
on February 6, 2003
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This Already Happens
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During most weekends with more than one contest/sprint active somewhere in the world, having some overlap in inevitable. The Oceania DX and CAQP overlap neatly with identical exchanges, Jubillee/Asia Sprint, SEANet and RD Contest(VK), and YV/ZL contests also overlap. There is lots of others, and with careful planning of exchanges (ie pour over rules beforehand). I use MS Excel to do these multi-contest logs which keeps the complexity down.
David VK2CZ
Posted by
vk2cz
on February 5, 2003
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Multiple submissions
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I'm sure once this kind of "contest within a contest" (CWC) becomes workable, someone could implement, on a website (say contesting.com or hornucopia.com) some easy-to-use interface so that contesters could submit one log to multiple "destinations" (whatever they might be) in a single email.
Independent groups could create these CWCs and announce the "rules" beforehand, supplying an email address, etc. Without access to all the logs sent to the main sponsor (CQ for example) the log-checking by these independents would suffer. Perhaps some kind of workaround could be constructed whereby those submitting to the CWC must also supply their final UBN/LCR reports (generated by the "real" sponsor) in order to qualify.
Mike N2MG
Posted by
N2MG
on February 5, 2003
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Half contest
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For years I've felt that I don't want to push myself past the point where the contest is fun, and now that I'm older, it might even be unhealthy to go 48hours. So I'd love to see someone run a 1/2 contest, where the rules are the same, but you can only work 1/2 of the total time.
I bet this could attract additional activity from casual ops who feel as I do, but can't win if it means not sleeping.
Posted by
N2BA
on February 4, 2003
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Yes, I would submit more logs but only if my contestig software supported it or the submission was relativly easy.
Posted by
AD6WL
on February 4, 2003
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Multiple log submissions
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There's no rule against double-submitting, now, is there?
Posted by
VE4XT
on February 1, 2003
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Nice idea about making things more fair for the guys in CQWW 160m contest
for example by changing multipliers in new rules.
Posted by
LZ2CJ
on February 1, 2003
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