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If a SO2R operator QSYs to another frequency to use the second radio to work a station how long should it be before others claim use of the original frequency?
  Posted: Jan 15, 2013   (157 votes, 11 comments) by VE5ZX

  immediately
  10-20 seconds
  20-30 seconds
  30-45 seconds
  45 sec or longer
  don't know
  don't care
    (157 votes, 11 comments)
Survey Results
immediately 48% (76)
10-20 seconds 22% (35)
20-30 seconds 11% (18)
30-45 seconds 4% (6)
45 sec or longer 4% (6)
don't know 3% (5)
don't care 7% (11)

Survey Comments
Another consideration about SO2R
During several SS contests my operating QTH was about a mile (as the crow flies) from a kilowatt, Yagi-tower station on the hill. If he was on the same band as I, it would take out my receiver front end, making operation on that band nearly impossible; esp. on 10/15 or 15/20. So, escaping to the other band was my refuge. However when this operator ran two bands I would be largely out of commission in the daytime; same thing on 80/40 at night.
One day I found BOTH his operating frequencies. While he would transmit on one I would QRL? on the other. Because in those days there was no lock-out he would end up transmitting two signals simultaneously to avoid giving up the frequency. Two signals simultaneously is of course a violation of the rules. If I had reported it, it would have been impossible to prove w/o a tape recorder, so he would get his 1st place every year.
We have a limited amount of frequency space.
The bottom-line is when you stop transmitting on a given frequency, contest ethics dictate that the frequency is fair-game.
Using SO2R to S&P on two bands of course makes sense, because you are not running either of the frequencies.
SO2R is an interesting idea if conducted properly. Otherwise it is a form of bully operation.
Non-contesters have enough problems with us taking over band segments.
SO2R ops should take care that they don't exacerbate the problem with their actions.

Posted by WQ6X on February 24, 2013

QSY
QSY...gives up frequency....end of statement.

Posted by kd0qnk on February 16, 2013

QRL
Sending a QRL invites another listener to take the freq from you! so short listen - hear nothing - go for it!

73 Mike

Posted by G3VAO on February 15, 2013

SO2R?
To me, if the guy is doing SO2R properly he'd
hear the QRL in at least one of his ears, and
respond. Otherwise why does he have two radios.
It's a non-issue for a good SO2R op. So we're
talking about a bad op. So QRL?, and if no
response in say 2 seconds, take the frequency.

Posted by gm4aff on February 9, 2013

Possesion not Ownership
A frequency is always available to be challenged. If its not being used..its up for grabs. Its up to the possessor to show occupation its not up to the passer by to wonder.

Posted by N1UR on January 29, 2013

SO2R
Should stick to the same criteria as SO1R.
QRL - no response - GO !

Rick - WU6W

Posted by K6RJP on January 27, 2013

QRL
Unless you hear the operator move a multiplier,
how would you know that the station QSYed to
work someone on a second radio and intends to
return.

Posted by kk9a on January 25, 2013

QSY
If you hear the station is moving to a different frequency we know it is being vacated. After a QRL? and no response I say settle in and run.
73,
Mike K0PY

Posted by K0PY on January 23, 2013

SO2R on another band
I always believed that SO2R should be in its own category, but that isn't the question here. But if SO2R is in the same category as SO1R then there should be no special considerations for the second radio. It should be treated just as an SO1R--if the there is no answer to the QRL or ?, then the frequency is up for grabs. No special consideration for the time to complete the second radio contact. Just part of the SO2R ops decision to go to the second radio. If SO2R were in its own category, then perhaps curtesy would allow additional time for completion, if you knew it was SO2R. Saul K2XA

Posted by k2xa on January 22, 2013

SO2R on another band
I don't believe sending "?" or "QRL ?" "entitles" anyone to a frequency. Listening, about the amount of time it would take to complete a QSO or two, and not hearing it in use then makes it fair game.

Posted by K4ZW on January 20, 2013

SO2R on another band
Most operating techniques involve compromises of some sort, and SO2R is no exception.

It seems to me that, on CW, if I hear an apparently clear frequency, send ?, followed up with QRL?, and get no reply, then I'm entitled to use the frequency.

73,
Paul EI5DI


Posted by EI5DI on January 17, 2013

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