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Do you favor moving to a single standardized "club circle" dimension for all contests that have a club competition?
  Posted: May 31, 2007   (144 votes, 10 comments) by VE5ZX

  Yes
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    (144 votes, 10 comments)
Survey Results
Yes 53% (77)
No 22% (32)
Don't know 9% (13)
Don't care 15% (22)

Survey Comments
Global Concept?
How about by Continent. So much organizing is via the Internet anyway, perhaps Continental boundaries, or by Country, eg any Canadian can participate in any Canadian contest as a member of a designated Canadian club for any particular contest.
Or US, or VE/K/XE, etc. This might blend people together instead of having regional competition. It would still be group competition. Or make it so that the radius of the circle stands, it can be moved 1x per year, and you may include X number of wild card stations from anywhere (say 2 or 3, pick a number), anywhere in the country per contest. It would make a club seek stations on the West Coast, and East Coast, etc. Club participation would become a function that could include loose affiliation for the sake of propagation advantages of stations on two different coasts. Recruitment into clubs would be on a contest by contest basis. An active contester might find themselves in the NCCC for one event, the SECC in another, for example, FCG, SMWC, YCCC, Order of the Boiled Egg Heads, or what have you.
This might also get rid of whatever administrative encumberances arise when it's time to fight over the origin of the circle, it's radius, and all that. Squabbles about who got left out and who needed to be left in, etc could be a thing of the past. Distant recruitment based on strategic and tactical advantage would come into play.

Just thinking out loud for the heck of it, here and trying to think outside the circle, so to speak. LOL.

Above all, have fun in the contest. 73.

PS, and as old friends move far outside the circle, joining other local circles, they may find themselves working for and with, old friends once again on occasion. Maybe it's a crazy idea but I hope it's a fresh one.

Posted by NT4XT on September 28, 2007

With respect to my good friends N4ZR and N4GG: I don't doubt it's an administrative challenge. However, I see differences between rules from sponsor to sponsor and event to event as good things, and am suspicious of attempts to make things the same from sponsor to sponsor and event to event (with the exception of standardizing the data formats). Like I said, I'm not a club guy, so my comments are from the outside looking in.

Posted by N5OT on June 30, 2007

Why?
I guess this needs some background. Right now, in ARRL contests an unlimited club member must live inside a 175-mile-radius circle in order for his or her score to count toward the club competition. In some CQ contests, a 275-km-radius circle (170.8 miles)is required, while in WAE and the Russian DX Contest a 500-km DIAMETER circle is used, and in some CQ contest there is no club area requirement at all!

For clubs whose members enjoy the club competition aspect, this is an administrative annoyance, which tends to cause clubs not to take the WAE and Russian contests, in particular, seriously.

Posted by N4ZR on June 28, 2007

I am not heavily vested in club competition, and I think some people who are get too caught up in stuff like this. I think reasonable total area rules would be better than the circle. Whereas this may not have been practical back when the rules were first written, it is practical now using free tools on the internet. I don't see any reason for the size to be the same from contest to contest, especially with different sponsors (i.e. requiring the ARRL and CQ to agree on the same size).

Posted by N5OT on June 26, 2007

Club Circle
This would hurt clubs that are centered near the coast since part of their area would be out in the ocean.

Posted by AD6WL on June 21, 2007

Club Circle
I am not normally a contester. I had to figure out what this meant. Since it is new to me I am not sure.

Posted by w0fen on June 20, 2007

Club Circle
I joined the Kansas City DX Club just before
the first of the year but I am not going to
credit the club with my contest submissions until they claim me on their online roster.

Posted by ws4y on June 8, 2007

club circle
I don't belong to a "club". I have enjoyed contesting for 15 or so years as an individual, and I have no idea what a "club circle" is, having never heard the term.
Live and learn, eh?

Posted by W7IBI on June 8, 2007

Club Circle
Long overdue.
N4GG

Posted by N4GG on June 5, 2007

Club Circle
This will take away any ambiguity away and I believe would help make administration easier.

Just my .02 cents.

Posted by k3oq on June 1, 2007

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