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no force, no foul
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When receiving information like this, a single op is not required to QSY, so they should not have to enter as assisted.
IF the op shows a pattern of repeated band changes to work the same station, then it should be questioned. But if the same stations are worked on different bands at various times during the contest, then no foul I say.
Posted by
w5reo
on January 28, 2007
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Common Sense
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Good grief, "single-operator" means SINGLE OPERATOR, regardless of whether he or she is running key, keyboard, mike, logging program, or looking up interest DX callsigns on QRZ.com while the system is belting out near-useless CQ's at 0300 ULT (ur local time). C'mon, oh Purists, multi-op means having another human actively helping in the process of making or logging QSO's.
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While I'm at it, but on a different topic altogether, I'd love to see "QRP" defined more realistically per theoretical S-units scale, for at least some major contests:
If "Low Power" = 100W RF output, (typically requiring 20A DC supply) then:
QRP = 25W RF out (4-5A battery @ 13.8 VDC)
QRPp = 5W output (1A DC)
QRPpp = 1 watt or below
73,
DAN, K4ZRA
Posted by
K4ZRA
on January 19, 2007
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I shouldn't be able to force you into another category
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I should not be able to force another into a category by telling them something.
They shouldn't be forced to act as if they didn't know it. A more extreme example, what happens when you are told to QRT because there is a ZD7 under you. Should you now be prohibited from working him?
People who abuse this (tell all their friends to tell them things, rather than log into packet) are another case. They are assisted.
Posted by
N2BA
on January 14, 2007
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Oh, Please
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Can't this topic die a quick and quiet death already?
This is the unfortunate unforseen consequence of calling the "Single Op w/Packet Cluster" category "SO-Assisted." This has caused some to claim ANY and ALL forms of "assistance" automatically upgrades one to the "Assisted" category. C'mon.
In the instance posed by the question, we're not talking about a regular, steady feed of information from multiple sources. We're talking about a random and unsolicited act of kindness and/or sportsmanship. Neither party should be penalized or be forced to undergo an involuntary category change for such an act!
Posted by
WN3VAW
on January 9, 2007
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Absurd
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Of course it doesn't require you to file as "assisted" for a random incident like this.
I read the threads regarding this on the CQ-Contest reflector, and it reminded me of picking fly droppings out of the pepper.
We all know what "assistance" means. There's no need to build up these absurd scenarios in an effort to create a straw man to knock down.
Posted by
AA4LR
on January 5, 2007
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No control!
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One has no control as to what the other operator may say. If one is not asking for helpful information then he/she is not asking for an assist.
I guess the follow-up question would be:
Would you go and work the multiplier or just ignore what someone told you?
To me, this whole assisted vs unassisted thing is getting blown way out of proportion. Just operate!
Posted by
NX5M
on January 4, 2007
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the question is poorly worded
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Simply "giving information" should not change the category.
But ACTING on that information, should change to SOA/unlimited.
Posted by
kr2q
on January 3, 2007
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Read the question !
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The key words are "gives you the frequency", which implies the (valuable) information was unsolicited, therefore the 'unassisted' station can still remain so.
Additionally, there should be nothing that another station can do to force you into a category you do not wish to be in.
regards, David VK2CZ
Posted by
vk2cz
on January 2, 2007
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late in SS I'm often asking if they've heard VY1. thats operating, not using outside soures
Posted by
ny1e
on January 2, 2007
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Resistance is futile!
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Cluster use should always be allowed by all.
Posted by
AA8LL
on January 2, 2007
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