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Assume you have a contest station on an average city lot composed of a triband antenna on a 50-60' tower, wire antennas and/or you are using the tower as a vertical on the lower bands and a good 100w transceiver. If you wanted to upgrade your station with a $1000 budget to be more competitive in the low power class would you
  Posted: Oct 01, 2006   (359 votes, 13 comments) by VE5ZX

  Improve your tower/antenna system
  Add SO2R capability
  Other
  Don't know
  Don't care
    (359 votes, 13 comments)
Survey Results
Improve your tower/antenna system 70% (251)
Add SO2R capability 20% (72)
Other 5% (17)
Don't know 3% (9)
Don't care 3% (10)

Survey Comments
First preference should be to improve the antenna system. In my experience on city lots the move from 50 ft to 70 ft is significant. The addition of a 2 el shorty forty is also significant. If the present tribander is a short boom (14 ft) antenna it should be upgraded to one with a 24 ft or longer boom. The tower can be shunt fed for both 80 or 160 and should have as many radials as can be put down (length will be limited by real estate and the practical maximum is 50 or 60). It may be of some help to bond the far ends together.

Posted by w0uo on October 27, 2006

$1K upgrade
Depends a bit on which contest.
For CQ WW:
Take your mate to the Caribbean and operate from a turnkey station. Have a friend operate your home station.
For ARRL DX:
Make a gift to a friend with a big station at which you can operate, preferably one that's normally unused... Have a friend operate your home station.

Posted by k2kq on October 14, 2006

If your currnet guy system would allow you to increase the height of your tower to about 70' - add the additional height and either change the tri-band antenna for one that includes 40mtrs or add a 'shorty' 40 2 ele 40 mono. This upgrade (if you are able to locate all the parts used) should be within the $1000.00 limit.

Posted by n1ln on October 7, 2006

Amp!
First choice is buy an amp. Life is too short for QRP or LP.
Second choice is SO2R, which can be done and done well from anywhere. I am SO2R with a pair of multi-band dipoles stuck in the woods, and made much bigger improvements in score with SO2R than I ever would with a better set of dipoles!

Posted by N4GG on October 5, 2006

Operate from Caribbean
Pick a contest and go to KP4 or KP2. You will then be very competitive!

73's Dan

Posted by K4FXN on October 5, 2006

improve
Add 3 sections of tower
A shorty 40 beam
Improve radial system

denny / k8do

Posted by K8DO on October 5, 2006

At least 2 ele 40m beam
Along with tri-bander add 2 ele shorty 40m yagi. It makes a ton of difference on that band. Oh and who cares about the neighbours.

Art N3DXX

Posted by n3dxx on October 4, 2006

so2r ?
Decent rig, Bandpass filter, so2r box/cables
for $1000.00? Lets be realistic you are antenna limited (try the tribander/wires catagory) spend the $1000.00 ON THE WIFE FOR MORE RADIO TIME

Posted by NB7V on October 3, 2006

Devil's in details
Since nothing was said about how good the current beam and other antennas were and only $1000 to work with I can see no better way to get a return than to improve the antenna farm.

Posted by n1bcl on October 2, 2006

still no contest
SO2R is the domain of the acerage owner. I don't argue that you can have so2r in some cities; I just say that most cities would'nt go for what you are playing in town in ve5. We all love so2r!!, and laying a good beating on us/those who don't/have had it; same class/legal advantage. Go for it!!!
For example here in yyc, a city of 1m people:::City sez'
1 Only one antenna/tower of 40'total ht
2 No wires/ guywires (I got my city letter to get rid of my backyard stuff or get legal)
3 Nothing closer than 1m (40") to the property line/ kinda tough for a shorty 40 on a 50' lot.
4 Nothing in the front yard
5 Everything that is grandfathered in (pre 1999) can't be over 60' up, get rid of the rest. They have pre 1999 pix of all the old stuff.
6 Anything not in use has to be removed/ you can't sell your ant property to another ham legally.
I see what I have as better than lots of city op's have, and playing up so2r in this survey makes it into 2 surveys. What you are really asking the contest community is;
Can you do SO2R from a city lot for less than $1000 over existing; ??? and, "Who is doing so2r in the city and did you do it for 1k over what you had b4.

Posted by ve6ex on October 1, 2006

My SO2R on a city lot
I live on a city lot. I am running full SO2R with a C31XR, EF240s, 80 dipole, 18AVQ and my 60ft tower is base loaded on 80/160. I used to have a switchable 40m sloper array attached to the tower that worked well. I have separate feedlines on the C31XR. Before I installed separate feedlines on the C31XR I used an 18AVQ as my second antenna. It cost about $1000 to upgrade to SO2R - there was no way I could upgrade the tower or antennas for that amount.

Posted by VE5ZX on October 1, 2006

no contest
Can't be done. so2r in the city with what ants are listed would be a waste of time/been there done that. 99% ot the city ant rules play less than what you have already claimed.
I'd say spend the grand on charming the neighbours to help you keep what you already have. Chances are pretty good you'll have to downsize in the future.

Posted by ve6ex on October 1, 2006

Keep Adding Antennas
As an SO2R convert (big time), I can tell you that you are much better off adding antennas/reduce losses first and then look to SO2R as you have started maxing those out for YOUR situation. I would beef up 40M with a 2 el beam on a longer mast and upgrade coax if able to AT LEAST LMR600 grade for lowest possible loss. Increasing ground radials to 60 if you are using the tower as a vertical would come to mind, as would adding wire "gain" arrays into EU and SA if you have some of the room.

SO2R is a great add but only when antennas are to a certain level.

Ed N1UR (SO2R for 7 years)

Posted by N1UR on October 1, 2006

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