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What Contest Logging Software are you using?
  Posted: May 31, 2004   (1928 votes, 38 comments) by wa4pgm

Survey Results
CT 17% (334)
NA 4% (77)
N1MM 19% (361)
TRLOG 12% (222)
WRITELOG 25% (478)
OTHER 17% (333)
NONE 6% (123)

Survey Comments
Excel ... yup, Excel
I just log mine in Excel. (XP)
I have a Word macro that prints the backs of my qsls, and a permanent log, from the data. When I need a special column, I can just add one. I must admit I am pretty much in the dark about the benefits of various programs. Since I went to XP, I havent had a single crash, but Linux spreadsheets can do pretty much the same thing.

WØWIE John

Posted by w0wie on February 22, 2006

Free contest logging software wins?
It seems very interesting that both CT with 17% and N1MM with 18% are free. Isn't a good idea to think about the future of paid-up (and sometimes overpriced) software? There are also many free unlisted programs so fairly over 1/3 contesters prefer free software. Sure, the price zero isn't mostly the main reason to prefer a particular program but isn't interesting anyway?
73 de Martin, OK1RR

Posted by ok1rr on September 25, 2004

N3FJP
I've been using Scott's contest loggers since I read about his free SS logger in a QST stray 7 years ago. At this point I am a registered user of all of his products. I especially like the map display of the ARRL tests. Although, it can be pretty discouraging at 0245Z on the first Sunday of November, and 5 or so Sections are still not highlighted. It's great visual aid for when visitors stop by the shack and ask what all those beeps are about.

Posted by N8CPA on July 16, 2004

Thanks!!
Thanks everyone for voting, I'm sorry the survey is limited but I did find out about a few programs I've not used before. Interesting results, I didn't realize so many are still using paper logs. I'm afraid my hands and arms wouldn't last and I probably couldn't read the log afterwards. :) CU in the next one! 73, Kyle

Posted by wa4pgm on May 31, 2004

TR Rules
The thing that I like about TR is, despite the learning curve of the CW CQ and answer routines, everything is intuitive, and keyed to exactly the keystrokes we already know from general-purpose computing: need an action, press enter (it will be the right action), need to escape an operation, press escape. Finished entering the callsign? Press enter. Finished entering the exchange. Press enter. Need to fix the callsign? Just enter the proper one as you're entering the exchange. It knows. What's with all this TAB nonsense of other programs?
There are parts of TR that are complex, but the most important part, operating, is as simple as it can be.

73, kelly
ve4xt

Posted by VE4XT on May 23, 2004

I still. like NA
I have been logging contests since the ARRL CW in 1981, and feel I was the first to score contests, determine mults, compute rate, & dupe in real time at competitive rates. This was back in the days when contesters were duping their logs after the contest with their Commodure 64's. My software ran on CP/M initially, and then MSDOS. I switched to other software in '91, and have paid for copies of CT,NA,WL&TR at some time or another.

I think all of them have room for improvement in ergonomics. TR is far too complicated, and with literally trillions of possible configurations, I never did find the one that works right. As a programmer, I know it is wise to keep the number of global TRUE/FALSE variables to a minimum because the permutations and bugs become unmanageable when you don't. TR has this problem.

NA was the first to support SO2R, and does it very well. The user interface is fairly basic (a clone of CT), and K8CC's software has always been the most stable from the standpoint of bugs. He supports the CW paddle from the LPT port, including automatic character spacing (to me, essential).

When the day comes when Dave discontinues the sale and support for NA, I hope to obtain the source code so I can add some ergonomic enhancements (especially dueling CQ's).

Roy -- AD5Q
Programming since 1967

Posted by ad5q on May 20, 2004

Lux-Log
Like other "OTHER" voters, I use a couple different programs. Lux-Log is my favorite for most casual and contest logging. However, our club has used TR-LOG for FD. This year we're trying the N3FJP for FD.

Posted by NN4DF on May 19, 2004

limitation of the survey software?
G4BUO wrote:
"Maybe it's a limitation of the survey software..."

Affirmative.

Mike N2MG

Posted by N2MG on May 19, 2004

TR Log
I'll be sticking with TR for CW contests for a while. It's awesomely flexible.

Posted by G3CWI on May 17, 2004

JL
I've written my own contest logger, JL. As far as I know, it has a user base of 1. It has several incredible advantages:


* It supports all the contests I want to operate
* It has all the features I want (mostly) and none I don't want.
* I give myself excellent customer support
* I never have to say "It's 15 minutes before the contest starts, and I can't get it to work right."


Seriously, it's online at www.qsl.net/w1jq. Take a look if you're interested. I may make a bigger announcement one of these days. I'm about to "release" a new version with WAE support.

Posted by w1jq on May 12, 2004

CT vs Writelog
We have had awful time during last WPX SSB with CT in M/M . It mixed up numbers in such a way we were not able to repair the log and have sent it as it is. For example I am giving a station No. 301 and I hit "enter"
CT suddenly changes the No. I have just sent to say 334 ???
So, after such a mess we are going to try Writelog. We've been told it behaves better in M/M mode.

Wally LZ2CJ - one of LZ9W Contest Team

Posted by LZ2CJ on May 12, 2004

Writelog
I've used W5XD's Writelog since it was a Win3.1 program. It used to be really messy, but that was largely tnx Windows not Writelog. Now using W2K (P3-650) if there's a crash (VERY rare) it's still Windows not Writelog. Setup is simple. mmTTY alone is worth the price of admission. CW is perfect. DOS is a very dimly remembered severe headache - I recall hours setting up a Byterunner card to get enough COM ports but now with USB to COM, bif bip bang done. Well OK, OpenSource is a great idea so I'm looking at N1MM.

Posted by k6xt on May 11, 2004

Why does this survey not include Non US contest software? I mainly use SD for CW contests and WF1B for RTTY. Like someone else said, DOS software tends to be much more stable and not require a reboot in the middle of the contest.

Paul G3WYW

Posted by G3WYW on May 10, 2004

Survey limitations
The surveys on this web site are limited to single answer questions. Perhaps some day we may have more flexible survey capabilities.

Syl

Posted by VE5ZX on May 10, 2004

Poor Question
Maybe it's a limitation of the survey software, but it's daft only to allow one response. I had to enter 'other' but in fact I currently use CT WL TR SD DL2NBU, depending on the requirements of the contest. My preference for CQWW is CT.

Posted by G4BUO on May 9, 2004

log software
I notice WIN-EQF logging programme not listed. This has to be about the best around
and the help from Tom N3EQF is outstanding.
He NEVER fails to reply and always comes up
with a full solution. Always updates as
required on line.
About 52 contests listed, and you can make
any of your own.

Posted by ve7nh on May 9, 2004

Other
I'm pleased to see there are 13% "other" users. Put me down as another "other" user. In this era when we can't build radios any more, I find it very satisfying to contest with homebrew software. I use CQPWIN, which I started as a DOS program for CQP/WPX/SS in 1992, changed to Windows in 1995 and have been using ever since. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of Writelog or N1MM, but has a simple user interface, is easy to set up, and now covers 11 contests plus a generic logging mode. Version 9.2 is available on the CQP web site (www.cqp.org), and I'm currently working on version 9.5, which will finally have rig control of frequency and mode. It already has rig interfaces to send cw, ptt, switch between microphone and soundcard/DVK and switch radios for SO2R. Earlier versions had the ability to send callsigns on phone using wav files, but I removed that because I didn't find it to be useful in fast-paced contests.
73, Andy, AE6Y, P40Y

Posted by ae6y on May 8, 2004

CT and DOS
I have an old Pentium 200 laptop which is a dedicated machine for hamradio running DOS and CT and it works just fine for me. I'm always in SOSB categories, never use packet cluster and and also never use any computer radio control (apart my eyes and hands, works perfectly fine)

I tried a few of windows based loggers but the last thing I need in contest is a mouse. So CT for now.

Posted by vk4dx on May 7, 2004

TLF
TLF.

http://home.iae.nl/users/reinc/TLF-0.2.html


*

Integrated voice keyer (14 messages)
*

AUTO-CQ
*

TRLog output compatible
*

Cabrillo compatible
*

Intelligent dupe checking
*

MUF calculator
*

Partial call / auto completion
*

Radio control for many TRX via Hamlib-1.1.4
*

IP networking for M/S or M/M operation (8 nodes)
*

Built-in telnet client and TNC terminal
*

Built-in cw practising simulator to learn tlf (cqww)
*

On-line log file sync over the network
*

Band info output on parallel port (top ten decoder compatible)
*

NEW: Live CD version
*

NEW: RTTY contesting and CW keying with MFJ1278B multi-mode controller
*

NEW: Sound recorder facility to record voice keyer messages and complete contest.
*

NEW: Native support for the TenTec ORION

*

Network based CW Keyer 6-60 wpm
*

ttyS0, ttyS1, USB and parallel port interfaces
*

24 CW messages
*

DXCC database
*

CQWW (SO, M/S and M/M)
*

WPX (SO, M/S and M/M)
*

ARRL Sweepstakes (SO, M/S )
*

EU SPRINT
*

EUHFC
*

ARRL-DX (both sides)
*

ARRL-FD
*

Region1 field day
*

SP DX contest
*

PACC (both sides)
*

NRAU - scandinavian
*

Wysiwyg mults mode
*

DX-pedition mode
*

General qso mode

Posted by N8VW on May 7, 2004

N3FJP
I have used N3FJP logger for the last several years in various contest. I have used the program for several State QSO parties and works great. I have used it in VHF QSO party and SS phone and CW the last few years and in fact use the General logger on my ham station LAN for the last 2 years. I have used the ARRL LOG BOOK OF THE WORLD "LoTW" feature of the software as well as the DX spotting feature. You can't beat the cost nor the support. I especially enjoy the Windows XP displays.

W7TYN

Posted by w7tyn on May 6, 2004

N1MM
as a contester on both HF and VHF/UHF/SHF i like to have one program for contesting i think this is the best program for me and our group.
because here in EU, N1MM is also working fine with the EU region 1 V-U-SHF contest.
PE9DX-John member PI4GN/PA1T contest team.

Posted by pe9dx on May 6, 2004

Good old DOS times ...
When we had only DOS all things were fine. Changing from good old DOS to something up2date (Linux, MS) still has to be accomplished by many contesters. I personally still like CT for DOS and the CT+DOS multi-multi activities still show up in the year 2004! But itīs getting exceedingly difficult do keep the old DOS machines in good shape and to adopt all newer tasks in modern contest environments. A good contest program is very easy to use (a minimum of commands, just needs a keyboard - no mouse!) and is permanently updated to accomplish all newly invented contests and contesting techniques. CT still rocks (even under MSoft ;-) Oliver OE5OHO

Posted by oe5oho on May 6, 2004

TR
Hi
Im using TR and very happy with that one
73 Al 4L5A/D4B

Posted by 4L5A on May 6, 2004

TR Log
Suprised to see TR Log not ranked higher. I think more than 13% of the top contesters use it.

My reasons for using TR:
1) flexibility (especially for CW).
2) SO2R capability.
3) can send CW with a paddle.
4) simulator.
5) auto send (big plus for slow typist).
6) fewer keystrokes than other programs.
7) minimal computer requirements (still runs great on an old 20mhz 486SX).

....Drawbacks:
1) steeper learning curve.
2) awkward post contest analysis.
3) "unexciting" display.
4) DOS becoming less available.
5) can't use USB ports.
6) lacking as a general purpose logging program.

- Marv, N5AW

Posted by n5aw on May 5, 2004

Top Ten
It would be more interesting to know what logging software is being used by Top Ten winners of major contests. IMHO the best software for the contest is the one which actually lets you concentrate on contest and and not to think which button to push or where to click.
73, VE3DZ

Posted by ve3dz on May 5, 2004

CTWIN
Is better for Multi station. At WinNT OS platform is running nice. But maybe in future I will be upgrade to N1MM or Writelog.

73 de Milan,OK1VWK/OL1F/OL7R

Posted by OK1VWK on May 5, 2004

Writelog
I have only used this software a few times and so far nothing comes close, only bad thing about it is that it doesnt have as many contest as many other contest loggers

Posted by mm3awd on May 5, 2004

N1MM
Hi, I voted for N1MM. Thanks for the great software. Very enjoying for contest.

Jon, YC2ECG.

Posted by yc2ecg on May 5, 2004

dBase 3+
In the spirit of homebrew, I wrote a general purpose Contest logger based on the Cabrillo data-table definitions. It will log 'any contest' into the 2 dominant variants of cabrillo data. (but it doesn't do any scoring). The only file conversion it does is to ADIF and MS Excel.


The 'perfect fit' of 20 year old dBase 3+ with Cabrillo is uncanny, and not lost on some contest managers either !! Making dBase 3+ export a modern day Excel spreadsheet file was easier than I thought.

I tried N1MM logger, but it collapsed when trying to log a KG4 in Florida...

Also use MS Excel(c) spreadsheet HB contest logger when I want glamour.. David VK2CZ (VK8AA and VK9XD for contests).

Posted by vk2cz on May 5, 2004

DXKeeper
Dave Bernstein's DXLab suite of programs is great. While DXKeeper is not optimized for contesting, it works well as a general purpose logger that can keep up with most contest loggers.

Posted by AD0K on May 4, 2004

N1MM
Even though N1MM is used by very serious contesters, it is also very well suited to casual contesters like myself. I found it extremely easy to use and makes casual contesting absolute fun and addictive (the bandmaps spoiled me forever).
The n1mmlogger group at yahoo is also the best group I belong to. People are friendly and to the point, without the rifraf of other groups.
Tom, the author, is always on the group ready to help.
Give it a try, you can't beat the price :-)

Posted by ko4bb on May 4, 2004

CT
CT is best!
73&88,
Nilay, TA3YJ & Berkin, TA3J

Posted by TA3J on May 4, 2004

N1MM
Absolutely the best contest software available! Tremendous support via the reflector. Even a "novice" Windows user like myself can navigate this program. Thanks, Tom, for the superb contesting program.

Posted by W8JWN on May 4, 2004

Old and reliable beats new and flashy
I just trust plain old DOS running CT much more than Windows. The middle of a contest is no time to reboot and wait for scandisk to run. DOS is stable, and very fast even on old hardware. And there's no worry about some unrelated software installation changing the registry and DLLs, making a previously reliable program unstable.

Thanks Ken, for all the years of hard work on CT!

Posted by KR0U on May 3, 2004

N1MM
I still use TR on an occasion, but N1MM is very nice. I really like working in the Windows environment, the great bandmaps, and the "Enter Sends Message" mode of N1MM. The CW generation under Windows is excellent. Check it out for free at:
http://www.n1mm.com

73, Craig - N7OR

Posted by N7OR on May 3, 2004

contest logging sftwre
Have used both Writelog and N1MM for the last few years in RTTY contests. Both have good features.Writelog is more mature at the moment. Like to use N1MM for the minor tests.
It is less tiring.
73 CU in the contests de Jerry NO2T

Posted by NO2T on May 3, 2004

N1MM
Hi!

I voted for N1MM.

Thank you Tom (and others) for providing such an excellent piece of software and even better, it is completely free.

Support, requests, everything what is asked on the mailing list is instantly solved.

73
Simon, S53ZO
http://lea.hamradio.si/~s53zo

Posted by S53ZO on May 3, 2004

Software
Writelog is such a good program, no other program comes close. Do use N3FJP software for specialty contests such as some state QSO parties and QRPARCI events.
John K3MD

Posted by K3MD on May 1, 2004

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