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Contesting Online Speak Out


Speak Out: WRTC 2002 Score Tracking

A member wants to know "The recent WRTC 2002 competition promised real-time score tracking. Did they deliver? Has a new standard been set for future contests?"

26 opinions on this subject. Enter your opinion at the bottom of this page.
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N5OT on 2002-07-18
It is not quite ready for prime time, but I don't think it will take much effort to work out the bugs. I agree with N2MG that "posting abuse" will make it not applicable to your average public contest, at least not any time soon. The WRTC had impartial third party adjudicators present who posted the actual score updates. The problem with incorrect score calculations was unfortunate.

Anonymous on 2002-07-18
N2MG:
Do you even know what WRTC was all about? 52 teams, nearly identical hardware, all located within a 100 km or so of each other - about as fair as one can get.
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Do you know what I was talking about? The contests used to choose the people who went to WRTC.

N2MG on 2002-07-18
One problem that became evident with (pseudo) realtime scoring is that it is now important (as it was just a few years ago for immediate post-contest score comparisons) that logging software calculate scores properly (in one notable case in WRTC2K2 it did not). Otherwise we get what we got - major final-position changes due to the correcting of score calculation errors. Implementing realtime scoring like in WRTC2K2 means we can no longer rely simply upon the consistent adjudication at the end of the contest based on the ubiquitous Cabrillo logs. I think most of us had gotten used to the idea that the scores as shown on our PCs was going to be totally recalculated by the log checkers based on one set of rules, a consistent multiplier list, etc. Now we've got to be sure that our PC gets it right (at least if we want honesty in reporting).

A new level of sophistication has been brought to contesting though I'm not so sure it will (or should) be applied to the "average" contest because of problems like deliberate mis-scoring and other mischief. Not to mention the potential for strategy shifts that might occur if one were to know the statistics of one's archrival. Right now that plays little part in a contest operation and we'd have to accept this with realtime scoring.

Knowing contesters, realtime scoring is probably going to happen, like it or not. Some will participate, others won't. Some will complain, others won't.

N2MG on 2002-07-18
Anonymous wrote: "After all who cares if you make a million points more then I do if I've only got a dipole and you have stacked mono-banders."

Do you even know what WRTC was all about? 52 teams, nearly identical hardware, all located within a 100 km or so of each other - about as fair as one can get.

Anonymous on 2002-07-16
Why are we so worried about on-line scoring when we still have problems making contests far. After all who cares if you make a million points more then I do if I've only got a dipole and you have stacked mono-banders.

it9gsf on 2002-07-16
I think it is our near future !
Implementing internet with contesting is a good thing, expecially if, with it, you can compare your performance with other's one. During the 2001 CQWW SSB Contest from IG9A M/M we had no opportunity to know our neighboroughs' score (IH9P)... and it was a pity, because there could be more space to optimize the strategy during the contest and not on a year/year basis.
(Hope my english is copiable, TNX!).
73 de Fabio, IT9GSF/IG9A

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