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Re: [WriteLog] Fwd: Fwd: [cwops] Packet spots

To: "'Kevin Rowett'" <kevin@rowett.org>, <writelog@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Fwd: Fwd: [cwops] Packet spots
From: <marsh@ka5m.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 11:26:33 -0600
List-post: <mailto:writelog@contesting.com>
> Getting it setup can take a fair amount of time.

So can N1MM Logger+

73,
Marsh, KA5M


-----Original Message-----
From: WriteLog <writelog-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Kevin Rowett
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 11:19 AM
To: writelog@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Fwd: Fwd: [cwops] Packet spots

yea…but ,WL is “an acquired taste”.  Getting it setup can take a fair amount of 
time.

73, K6TD


> On Nov 10, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> In this regard, I have to congratulate Wayne W5XD and the WriteLog 
> development team.  They seem to produce release after release that just work. 
>  No contesting ending failures.  Compare that to some other logging software!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WriteLog <writelog-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Hal 
> Kennedy
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 9:58 AM
> To: writelog@contesting.com
> Subject: [WriteLog] Fwd: Fwd: [cwops] Packet spots
> 
> Agree with Randy and others.  I ran the largest system engineering department 
> in the US.  Maybe the world.  One of the top five rules:  NEVER intentionally 
> introduce errors to "fix" something.  The rule of unintended consequences can 
> be brutal.
> 
> 73
> Hal N4GG
> 
> 
> Agree!  I want to control this myself rather than have the software do it.
> If implemented, it should be an optional setting.
> 
> 
> K5ZD
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WriteLog <writelog-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Rowett
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 11:17 PM
> To: Alan Maenchen <ad6e@arrl.net>
> Cc: WriteLog Reflector <writelog@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Fwd: [cwops] Packet spots
> 
> yes!  I find XIT, or slight adjustment of the big knob to help tremendously 
> in getting to the top (bottom?) of a pileup, in a contest.
> 
> But, I’d NOT like the SW to do that for me.
> 
> In fact, we had a bit of discussion about that on the internal K4 eng list.  
> Someone was advocating the K4 do that, as part of the radio.
> Nooooooo.
> 
> 73, K6TD
> 
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Alan Maenchen <ad6e@arrl.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I posted the note below on the CWops reflector about XIT offset for 
>> the "click n shoot" crowd.
>> N4ZR then said that N1MM has such a feature built in (option). I'm 
>> not pushing for it, but wondering if WL does something similar. I 
>> haven't looked for it but then there's a lot that I don't know. Just curious.
>> 
>> Personally, I think part of effective operating in a pileup situation 
>> is choosing your TX frequency such that you stand out in a crowd.
>> That's something you learn. Personally, I move the main VFO manually 
>> to offset myself from others rather than use the XIT knob. But, that 
>> knob is there and having some automatic offset might be a good 
>> thing... only for jumping on a packet spot.
>> 
>> 73, Alan  AD6E / KH6TU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Pete Smith <n4zr@comcast.net>
>> Date: Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 5:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [cwops] Packet spots
>> To: <main@cwops.groups.io>
>> 
>> 
>> Many N1MM+ users are aware of this, but there is an option in the 
>> Telnet window to automatically offset your transmission from the spot 
>> frequency by a random small amount - should help.
>> 
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
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>> For spots, please use your favorite
>> "retail" DX cluster.
>> 
>> On 11/9/2020 5:59 PM, Alan AD6E wrote:
>> 
>> Need to get this off my chest - I apologize in advance for this complaint.
>> It was a great SS but ...
>> 
>> I love getting spotted and the resulting pileup. BUT there is a 
>> serious problem with the "click and shoot" crowd where they don't 
>> think about what it's like on the other end. Even a small pile of two 
>> or three on exactly the same frequency is near impossible to copy 
>> anyone. Signal strength alone is sometimes good enough to copy the 
>> loud one, but usually they stack up at close enough strength that 
>> it's impossible to copy. Yes, I do ride the RF gain control when I 
>> can and that helps but my hearing isn't what it used to be.
>> 
>> PLEASE!  Set your XIT to some random offset .. plus or minus. The 
>> easy copy signals are the ones as far from the crowd as possible and 
>> still within my bandwidth (400-500 Hz).  Unfortunately, not many of 
>> those. I know some like to use really narrow filters so deciding what 
>> offset to use is a crap shoot.  See what works. An offset of zero does NOT 
>> work.
>> 
>> That said, I caught myself a few times zero beating. Some 
>> self-flagellation is in order.
>> 
>> Aloha, Alan  AD6E / KH6TU
>> 
>> 
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