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Re: [WriteLog] Can not switch TNC???

To: "'Jerry Pixton'" <jpixton@shentel.net>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Can not switch TNC???
From: Ed Muns <w0yk@msn.com>
Reply-to: w0yk@msn.com
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:19:32 -0700
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Thanks for the clarification, Jerry.  That answers all my questions about
your configuration and process.  I see nothing wrong.  I want to do some
re-testing and see if I can reproduce what you and others are reporting.

Ed W0YK


 

Jerry W6IHG wrote:
> Please notice that I did follow the advice being given and 
> removed the [rttyrite...] sections in the writelog.ini in the 
> virtual store location. That did not help. So then I removed 
> the entire writelog.ini to let writelog rebuild. That did not 
> work either!
> 
> This is a Windows 7 Pro platform.
> 
> In the two attempts I have made, I have restarted writelog 
> many times and each time I open a mmtty-plug-in window and 
> then try to either change the TNC settings from rttyrite or 
> try to close the mmtty window by changing tnc to stereo 
> soundboard AFSK rttyrite freezes requiring Task Manager to 
> kill it. The mmtty window will then close ok.
> 
> So it is more than the first time writelog is started after 
> an install. 
> This was a full install (over writelog 11.08) as my key had 
> expired. So I don't know what happens with just an upgrade.
> 
> One full install was to the ...Program Files... location and 
> one was to my c:\HamPrograms directory.
> 
> What other tests can I do to help locate this issue?
> 
> In rereading our messages carefully, I do see a slight 
> difference in what I did vs what you said. I believe I 
> deleted the [rtty...] sections before starting writelog and 
> rttyrite - not after the first freeze and kill process step.
> 
> I do not have multiple versions of writelog in different 
> directories - I did uninstall when I want to put writelog 
> back where I wanted in c:\HamPrograms.
> 
> Thanks to everyone who is trying to sort this out.
> 
> Jerry, W6IHG
> 
> 
> On 4/2/2013 4:14 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
> > Jerry W6IHG wrote:
> >>   From the mail I think several of us are having the same problem 
> >> with 11.10.
> >>
> >> The basic problem is rttyrite freezes up when its tnc menu 
> is touched.
> >
> > Yes, this has been reported by several people here on the 
> reflector.  
> > I also experience this once in a while when I'm stressing 
> the software 
> > with my testing on various PCs.  THE SOLUTION THAT HAS 
> ALWAYS WORKED FOR ME IS TO:
> >
> > 1.  CLOSE WRITELOG.
> > 2.  OPEN WRITELOG.INI WITH A TEXT EDITOR.  (WRITELOG.INI IS IN THE 
> > WINDOWS DIRECTORY ON XP AND EARLIER.  ON VISTA AND LATER, 
> USE THE LINK 
> > TO WRITELOG.INI ON THE WRITELOG MENU IN YOUR PROGRAMS MENU FROM THE 
> > WINDOWS START BUTTON.) 3.  FIND ALL [Rttyrite...] SECTIONS 
> AND DELETE 
> > THEM  SAVE WRITELOG.INI AND EXIT THE TEXT EDITOR.
> > 4.  OPEN WRITELOG AND SETUP YOUR RTTYRITE WINDOW(S) AGAIN.
> >
> > NOTE:  DON AND I SUSPECT THIS PROBLEM IS COMMON TO VISTA/WINDOWS 
> > 7/WINDOWS 8 SYSTEMS THAT USE THE VIRTUALSTORE.  IT WOULD 
> HELP US TRACK 
> > DOWN THE PROBLEM IF THIS IS TRUE.  HAS ANYONE HAD THE 
> FREEZE ISSUE ON 
> > WINDOWS XP (OR EARLIER OS)?
> >
> > I ALSO SUSPECT IT MAY ONLY HAPPEN WHEN YOU START WRITELOG THE FIRST 
> > TIME AFTER AN INSTALL OR UPGRADE.  PLEASE ALSO CONFIRM OR DENY THIS?
> >
> > Sorry for the caps.  I don't mean to shout, but several of us have 
> > posted this advice many times in the last four days and it 
> doesn't seem to be
> > noticed.   ;>)
> >
> >> I am just trying to get mmtty plug-in to work the same as 
> it has for 
> >> me in 11.08.
> >
> > Upgrading to 11.10G should require nothing unless you incur the 
> > freezing problem.  MMTTY with the MMTTY Plug-In will 
> continue to work without change.
> > Make sure 'MMTTY' is checked on the Rttyrite TNC menu.  Do 
> not use the 
> > XMMT.ocx menu choice if you want to use the MMTTY Plug-In.
> >
> >> This morning, I uninstalled 11.08 again (after making a
> >> backup) because it went in the wrong directory yesterday.
> >>
> >> I then installed 11.10 in c:\HamPrograms\Writelog\ I deleted the 
> >> [rttyrite] and [rttyrite2] sections from the writelog.ini in 
> >> ...virtualStore... and saved it.
> >>
> >> I then started writelog and opened a rttyrite window. Then 
> selected 
> >> mmtty. Had to point to the proper directory (I did not reinstall 
> >> mmtty).
> >> The rtty control panel for mmtty opened.
> >>
> >> But as soon as I try to go to TNC Setup to adjust the mmtty 
> >> appearance, rttyrite freezes!
> >>
> >> When I also go to the Stereo Soundboard AFSK option, 
> rttyrite freezes 
> >> (that was the original problem I had).
> >>
> >> And somewhere along the line I had to reinstall the mmtty plugin 
> >> because I was getting errors messages about "failed to 
> create custom 
> >> ... tnc header"
> >>
> >> Also I have been unable to save the size and location of 
> the rttyrite 
> >> window using the Save Configuration option.
> >>
> >> I deleted the writelog.ini in ...virtualStore... to let writelog 
> >> build a new one. But that did not solve the problem.
> >>
> >> So basically I can not get back to the configuration of 
> mmtty that I 
> >> had with 11.08.
> >>
> >> Any ideas???? Meanwhile I have regressed back to writelog 11.08
> >
> > I assume your OS is Vista or later since you mention 
> VirtualStore.  If 
> > I understand the description of your actions and problems, 
> it sounds 
> > like you did not delete the [Rttyrite...] sections in writelog.ini 
> > after you got the freeze.  I understand you deleted the entire 
> > writelog.ini.  That's not the same thing, so please try the 
> > instructions above when you encounter the freeze.  Your 
> goal, after a 
> > freeze, is to edit the working writelog.ini file, not delete it.  
> > Deleting it probably means that WriteLog reverts to 
> initializing with 
> > the default writelog.ini file stored in Windows in an 
> earlier installation.
> >
> > I'm also a bit nervous about multiple installations of WriteLog in 
> > different directories.  I don't know how the Registry and 
> VirtualStore 
> > behave in that case.  If it were me, I'd uninstall all of them and 
> > only have one on the computer at a time.
> >
> >> Someone commented re: cleaning the registry values. Is 
> that necessary?
> >
> > I haven't heard this and I would relegate this to a last resort and 
> > only if you get clear instructions from someone really understands 
> > what to do.  For me, the only person I'd trust is W5XD.
> >
> > Ed W0YK
> >
> >
> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------
> Dr. Jerry R. Pixton, PIXOS Designs
> http://www.shentel.net/pixosdesigns/RadioTuner/
> jpixton@shentel.net
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