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Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: Radials on ground v FCP
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 17:30:40 -0800
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Agree with N6RK.

My T has 8x 125 elevated radials (b4 N6LF work) but is in trees, with the significant losses and is hard to maintain, climbers are unobtanium currently.

I am working on a self supporting 160 vertical for a clearing, top hat loaded a with mid loading coil. With 3 elevated 125ft radials it is within a fraction of db of more. Also, the land constraints has them at 290, 30, and 110 degrees which skews the pattern 1db towards EU, which is a plus from WWA.

Grant KZ1W

On 1/9/2022 08:22, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:

On 1/9/2022 4:51 AM, CUTTER DAVID via Topband wrote:
Hi Rob

I see copper prices have doubled in the last year.

My intention is to compare and contrast the cost and performance of short verticals over a large field of ground radials v the very modest amount of wire required for the FCP.  In Guy's article


This is a false dichotomy between FCP and a broadcast station ground screen.  The best use of wire is to have a small number of elevated tuned radials with proper RF choking.  As shown by N6LF, you can do well with just 8 radials, about 100 feet long each.  On 160 meters, they should be 20 feet high for optimum performance.  BTW, cheap aluminum electric fence wire works perfectly for elevated radials  Also consider N6BT's single spiral radial configuration as an alternative to FCP.

Rick N6RK
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