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Re: [TowerTalk] Tips for Modelling swaged antenna tubing sections

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tips for Modelling swaged antenna tubing sections
From: Mark - N5OT <r-emails@n5ot.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:00:13 -0500
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Back when I would model stuff all the time (K6STI's YO) I just put in the swaged parts as separate segments that were the correct diameter and length as the swaged parts. That does not really compensate for the tiny bit of transition from larger to smaller, but my segments were chosen arbitrarily to be halfway through that tiny bit of transition (i.e. the combined lengths added up to the actual phisical length of the HyGain part I was modeling.  I figured no matter how inaccurate my method was, it was still better than ignoring the swaged part altogether.

73 - Mark N5OT


On 9/29/2020 11:02 AM, jimlux wrote:
On 9/29/20 8:52 AM, Charles Morrison wrote:
No. Outside.

So you have a small bump in diameter. Model it as such. Add a short 1 segment wire that is the diameter of the swaged part. realistically, if it's a "tiny" part of a wavelength, it's not going to make much difference.



On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:49 AM jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net <mailto:jimlux@earthlink.net>> wrote:

    On 9/29/20 8:31 AM, Charles Morrison wrote:
     > Is there an accepted reduction percentage that is used ?
     >    How do you model the swaged portion of tubing ?
     >
     > The published HyGain models do not account for it in a separate
    tubing
     > section, so no hints there.

    Isn't the shrunkdown part inside another element? If so, it's not in
    the
    circuit.


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