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Re: [TowerTalk] Rain drops noise on Yagi (dipole)

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rain drops noise on Yagi (dipole)
From: Richard Smith <n6kt1@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 23:41:37 +0000 (UTC)
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 Hi Bob,
What would you say that the S-Meter differences would be, on the average, 
between the top, second, and third yagis?  I'm guessing that they are not 
always consistent, depending on a particular storm, but are we talking 
generally about a 1, 2 or 3 S-Unit difference?
73, Rich, N6KT

    On Wednesday, December 5, 2018, 1:18:14 PM PST, Bob Shohet, KQ2M 
<kq2m@kq2m.com> wrote:  
 
 I have had difference experiences than Jim.  When the rain static is horrible 
(at the level where is sounds like the drumming section in a large marching 
band  ;-)  the the top yagi is always the loudest in Ierms of hearing rain 
static, it is NOT the only one that gets it and that has been true whether it 
has been 10, 15 or 20 meters.  What happens at my qth is that the top is the 
loudest by far, the 2nd one down is moderately loud, the 3rd one down has some 
static and the 4th one down (bottom) is quiet.

With lower levels of rain static, the top is still the loudest but the 2nd and 
3rd one down may not experience any.

I use 5L Hygain HG205CA, 155CA and 105CA’s.

73

Bob, KQ2M


From: Jim Thomson 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 12:50 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com 
Subject: [TowerTalk] Rain drops noise on Yagi (dipole)

Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 11:03:12 -0500
From: "john@kk9a.com" <john@kk9a.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Cc: guidoted@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rain drops noise on Yagi (dipole)

<The rain static solution is in the towertalk archives 1 Apr 1997 
http://lists.contesting.com/_towertalk/1997-04/msg00023.html

<John KK9A

##  Its always the very top  yagi,  regardless of how many yagis on the same 
tower.  The lower yagis never seem to be affected. 
Perhaps the..fix is to  install the smallest yagi you can get away with..at the 
very top of the tower..or mast above the tower...
that will kill the rain and or  wind static..or st elmos  fire..or whatever the 
heck is actually causing it.  The top ant does not need coax either.
Perhaps something like a 1-2-3 el 10m yagi..or  TA-32, TA-33, or just enough 
aluminum  at the very top to kill the noise to the actual
yagis below it, that are  being used. 

##  I have heard the same story at least a doz times now..even if they are  DC  
grounded eles... like a Hy gain  204BA. . 
Its always the very top yagi that gets the noise..and never the lower yagis. 
Some type  of sacrificial top...yagi /  al  may well do the trick.  

Jim  VE7RF 

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