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Re: [TowerTalk] How to apply lube to HDX589

To: Andre VanWyk <kr5dx@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] How to apply lube to HDX589
From: Jon Pearl - W4ABC <jonpearl@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:10:03 -0400
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Hi Andre,

On 6/13/2013 1:38 PM, Andre VanWyk wrote:
Well I never heard of a crank up tower that failed because the cables were not 
lubricated PROVIDING manufacturer guidelines are followed and cables are 
changed when required.
There are two instances of wire rope failures (one, with catastrophic results) this week over on the CrankupTiltoverTowers list - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CrankupTiltoverTowers/

Were they lubricated, Y/N?  Not known.

Are you incorrect in your assertion, above?  Nope!

I guess if one were to follow or exceed *some* manufacturers recommendations by removing and replacing un-lubricated cables per their schedule or at a more expeditious rate, we might never realize a failure. But why (as we have read that *some* manufacturers state) remove and replace un-lubricated cable every three years when there is more than anecdotal evidence that the use of proper wire rope lubricant significantly extends the lifespan of wire rope?

Is the argument that the timely application of a proper wire rope lubricant somehow does damage, -vs- the costly replacement of of un-lubricated wire rope as often as every three years? If so, is it due to the fact some tower manufacturers (by their recommendation not to lubricate their cables at all) have created a stigma (and thus a divide in the tower community) that the application of lubrication is somehow harmful to the wire rope?

I think someone might have hit on the crux of the argument, earlier. If US Tower recommends that their cables not be lubricated then the obvious result is a shortened cable life and an expedited schedule of replacement. $$$

Here are two easily found web based examples, illustrating some of the reasons why wire rope fails and the many good reasons to lubricate/protect it:
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/372/wire-rope-lubrication
http://www.hecoslings.com/rope_lubrication.htm



73,


Jon Pearl - W4ABC
www.w4abc.com



I think we as hams tend to both try to reinvent the wheel too many times. If it 
ain't broken, don't fix it!

NJ0F

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Steve Dyer <w1srd@yahoo.com> wrote:

K7LXC breaks the prime directive for lubricating crank-up cables. He sells 
Prelube 6 on his site and recommends using it. And yes, any professional user 
of wire rope always lubricates their cables on a regular maintenance/inspection 
schedule.
It baffles me why anyone would not lube the cable with the *proper* lubricant 
since the cable is THE critical link in a crank-up.
It's a testament to how well the cable holds up that more failures haven't 
occurred. That and it's way over-sized to the load.
73,
Steve
W1SRD





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