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Re: [TowerTalk] DX Engineering 66-Foot Vertical?

To: "larryjspammenot@teleport.com" <larryj@teleport.com>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DX Engineering 66-Foot Vertical?
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:47:17 -0400
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You might try www.tmastco.com.  It is run by Henry, K4TMC, and stocks a 
variety of fiberglass and aluminum products that will meet your needs, 
probably for a lot less than you can build them yourself.

I'm a satisfied customer.

73, Pete N4ZR

  At 02:21 AM 3/14/2009, larryjspammenot@teleport.com wrote:
>I was particularly interested in the construction of the 66' DX 
>Engineering vertical, not to use as an actual vertical antenna, but to 
>mount in a tripod on my roof and then use it as a tall support for an 80M 
>inverted vee. I figured an aluminum mast (it doesn't have to actually be 
>the full 66 feet tall) would be stronger than buying one of those 
>telescoping fiberglass poles that I see frequently advertised on most of 
>the ham radio web sites. They appear to become pretty small at the top and 
>can probably only support a number 18 to 22 wire inverted vee for a field 
>day weekend, at best. Just a sturdy, tall support for a wire antenna was 
>my real interest in considering this telescoping mast project. My Buternut 
>HF6V more than performs well for any DX I might want to chase.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jack/W6NF <vhfplus@bmg50.com>
> >Sent: Mar 13, 2009 8:05 PM
> >To: n8de@thepoint.net
> >Cc: towertalk@contesting.com, N7KA@comcast.net
> >Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DX Engineering 66-Foot Vertical?
> >
> >On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:03 PM, <n8de@thepoint.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Let me calculate:
> >>
> >> 6 x 11 = 66'
> >>
> >> 64' vertical
> >>
> >> this means the TEN overlaps occupy only 2' ?
> >>
> >> 24/10 = 2.4 inches.
> >>
> >> I'd never put up a vertical with only 2.4" per overlap... disaster
> >> looking to happen.
> >>
> >> Now, if there are 12 sections with 11 overlaps:
> >>
> >> 6 x 12 = 72'
> >> 64' vertical
> >>
> >> 8' of overlap in 11 places
> >>
> >> 96/11 = about 9" per overlap.
> >>
> >> Much safer construction, in my humble opinion.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Don
> >> N8DE
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting N7KA@comcast.net:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tubing cost alone is $142.20 from DXE plus the mast kit comes with
> >> > clamps.  Not to bad a deal for the mast kit.  Note that most tubing
> >> > is slit at one end for use of "hose" clamps.  It takes 11 6ft
> >> > sections to be for 64ft vertical.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Arne N7KA
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> >> > To: "TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:06:11 AM GMT +00:00 Monrovia
> >> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DX Engineering 66-Foot Vertical?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> It would be interesting to see a printout of all the diameters,
> >> >> lengths wall thicknesses and any other relevant info for each of
> >> >> the aluminum tubing pieces that comprise one of these 66' vertical
> >> >> antennas.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, it certainly would. But DXEngineering PAID an engineer to
> >> > design that antenna, and they deserve to sell that product to
> >> > recover their costs. It's what's called free enterprise.
> >> >
> >> > 73,
> >> >
> >> > Jim Brown K9YC
> >> >
> >> >
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> >I have two of the DX Engineering 65-foot vertical kits...one on 80-meters
> >and one tee-loaded for 160. They both have 1/4-wave radials...40 on 80 and
> >39 (at present) on 160. Both are mounted on 8-foot 4x4's set in concrete and
> >pivot on long bolts. The performance of both is excellent with my first EU
> >on 160 with this antenna...something I never was able to do with my
> >inverted-L.
> >
> >The bottom sections are 5-6-inch overlap with diminishing overlap as you go
> >up. I have the both antennas guyed with Dacron line at 3 levels, as
> >recommended by DX Engineering, plus I have two extra guys at right angles to
> >the tee-wires on the 160 antenna. I have experienced 65-70MPH (minimum)
> >winds with no detrimental effects at all. Basically, I'm pretty happy with
> >the verticals and have no qualms about the construction technique.
> >
> >--
> >Jack, W6NF
> >Silver Springs, NV
> >DM09ji
> >
> >Migrating my e-mail to vhfplus@gmail.com. Please update you address book.
> >Thanks!
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