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Re[2]: Fwd: Re: [TowerTalk] HB towers

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Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: Re: [TowerTalk] HB towers
From: Bob Otto <N8NGA@one.net> (Bob Otto)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:42:12 -0500
Hello alsopb,

At the risk of over discussing this topic, I'd ask you to think about
the answer to just two questions........

You said:

"Personally, I'd have no problem living next to a guy with a tower
having a splint on its leg--especially if there were some engineering
used to determine what's adequate."

Do you think asking the members of TT what they think is an
appropriate method of splinting constitutes "some engineering"??  If
the tower fell on your child, would you think that "engineering"
was enough?

The point that I think several have tried to make is "don't experiment
and improvise -- get serious engineering help or better yet, replace
the tower section".  This is one case that isn't about experimenting,
it's about doing the right thing.

73 from.......

Bob Otto
N8NGA@one.net
Cincinnati, Ohio

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Friday, March 09, 2001, 4:58:55 PM, you wrote:

a> Bob,

a> And who exactly determines what will cause harm to other people and
a> what statistical probability will they define which constitutes
a> "unacceptable risk"?

a> The first atomic pile was constructed and went critical under the
a> bleachers of a football field.  It was safe because the people doing
a> it had the smarts to do it in a safe way.  The physics hasn't changed.

a> The problem is society has changed.  People without
a> engineering/scientific background are want to live in a world of zero
a> risk.  They simply don't understand that such a thing is impossible. 
a> Those passing the laws and regulations for the most part are not
a> setting levels based upon statistical risk but rather based upon
a> politics.  Whatever makes the masses FEEL good is the determining
a> factor.

a> Perhaps a "mandatory psychiatric treatment law for chicken littles"
a> would have a more positive effect on society than more restriction of
a> others personal freedoms.

a> Personally, I'd have no problem living next to a guy with a tower
a> having a splint on its leg--especially if there were some engineering
a> used to determine what's adequate.   If I were concerned, I'd just
a> make sure that my kids and property were out of the fall radius.  I'd
a> be willing to bet the probability of some of the 100' pine trees
a> falling on my roof would be higher.  I'm not worried about that
a> either.    

a> 73 de Brian/K3KO

a> Bob Otto wrote:
>> 
>> Hello alsopb,
>> 
>> Interesting point, but not entirely fair.  While it is acceptable, and
>> encouraged, for HAMs to experiment, it is NOT acceptable to experiment
>> in a way that could cause harm to other people.  Would you have wanted
>> that first steam engine to be tested/experimented with right next to
>> your children's bedroom??

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