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Re: [TenTec] Centurion Amplifier - random "ticks"

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion Amplifier - random "ticks"
From: <w3hkk@roadrunner.com>
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:20:24 -0500
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1. I periodically hear  an occasional soft "tick" coming from the  amplifier  
during a key down tune up procedure in my Centurion.  Assume theyre due to to  
gas build up in the  tunes,  discharging?  Any ideas?
This happens at relatively low power ( 200-500w), after a 12 month period of 
not being used.

2. Also, my  20 year old  Centurion ( with  1 year old tubes)  also shows  
different  swrs on different bands -  on my driver (IC-7600 and IC-7610 xcvrs). 
 It varies anywhere from 1.1:1 to 1.8:1  on 160-80-40-30-20-17-15-12-10m. I  am 
guessing it is due to wear and tear on the input circuit from years of usage.  
I have used the AT in my xcvr to lower the swr when it is above 1.5:1.   ie  
1.8:1 on 40m is lowered to 1.3:1.  Any suggestions on how to  improve  the 
input match?  

---- MadScientist <dukeshifi@comcast.net> wrote: 
> Well, a sweep generator, as called out in the manual, is preferred.

Lacking that. here’s a way to get around the lack of one.

This circuit is a bandpass circuit but, fortunately, only has two points of 
interest, rather than the 4 or more used in old TV video IF’s. One coil slug 
for each band peaks the high frequency end, the other peaks the low frequency 
end. The low Q of the circuit thus allows for a bandwidth of 500 KHz or so. 
This is known as stagger tuning.


1) Assuming 80 meters is OK, plot the throughput of the tuned circuit (radio 
power output, staying below ALC level) versus frequency, from 3.5 to 4.0. Do 
this in 50 KHz steps, so you will be able to see any dips in response over the 
range.
2) Go to 40 meters and do the same thing from 7.0 to 7.5 MHz to see where you 
stand at the start. You’ll probably see a single peak somewhere, which is what 
most people would try for, lacking knowledge of the circuit’s intent.
3) Starting at 7.0 MHz, adjust each core of T11 just a  bit, then back to 
original position. Identify which one makes the most difference per quarter 
turn at 7.0. put both back where they were.
4) Go to 7.5 MHz and do the same thing. These steps tell you which coil core 
tunes which end of the band.
5) Peak top and bottom alternately, adjusting the one for that end of the band 
only, a few times at about 7.050 and 7.450.
6) Once you reach a state at which the two adjustments are more or less peaked 
at their respective band ends, perform the same plot of output versus frequency 
as done in step 1 but on 40 meters.

This should get you pretty close. You should then be able to make fine 
adjustments along the entire band to get the flattest response you can.

Gary 

W0DVN

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 2:16 PM, w0ep <w0ep@w0ep.us> wrote:
> 
> 
> 80262 - Front End
> 
> It has RX filters and TX bandpass filters
> 
> In my copy of the manual it is covered on pages 3-7 and 3-8
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/6/19 1:33 PM, MadScientist wrote:
>> What board number are you addressing?
>> 
>> The TX low pass board, 80260, shares one variable cap on all bands and that 
>> is for sampling to the directional coupler.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 9:41 AM, w0ep <w0ep@w0ep.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My next need for this Aragonaut 509 is tuning one of the TX output filters.
>>> The manual says not to touch them.
>>> 
>>> Ok!  I'm for that, except someone has already been there and my 7 MHz filter
>>> is blocking the signal from getting to the PA board.  How do I know?  I
>>> twiddled with it just enough to see it come up drastically.
>>> 
>>> So now I can testify for sure:  this filter needs to be adjusted.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas on how to do it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> w0ep
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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