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Re: [TenTec] Speaking of the Ten Tec 302 Remote Tuning Knob!

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Speaking of the Ten Tec 302 Remote Tuning Knob!
From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Reply-to: ronc@sonic.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:53:57 -0700
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There is no question in my mind that the Ten Tec 302 is the finest remote 
tuning knob ever manufactured by any company.  I own one, and I also own a 
FlexControl knob, and most recently the Wood Box Radio Tmate2, neither of which 
can hold a candle to the 302!  The 302, by my count, has a resolution of 200 
steps per rotation while the FlexControl has only about 40 and the very 
expensive Tmate2 (twice the cost of the 302) only about 32.   This seriously 
impacts tuning ability and requires very large steps or way too many 
revolutions.  I would also add that the encoders used on the FlexControl and 
the Tmate2 are 'wobbly' and feel cheap, where the 302 is smooth as silk, 
beautifully balanced and a joy to use.

The problem is that the 302 only works with Ten Tec products and with more and 
more people operating by remote control, it would be wonderful if the 302 could 
be adapted to work as a USB/HID device so that it would be compatible with 
remote software like N4PY's excellent programs as well as the burgeoning number 
of SDR receivers on the market.

Perhaps an external adapter could be developed that could convert the 302 to 
USB/HID, however since there is no published schematic anywhere for the 302, 
only Ten Tec would be able to build such a device.  If they did, it would be an 
instant source of revenue since they would sell hundreds of 302's and hundreds 
more of the adapters.

Anyone at TT listening?

Thanks!
          Ron Castro
           N6IE
    www.N6IE.com

Member:
                  ARRL
     Redwood Empire DX Assn.
 Northern California Contest Club
Northern California DX Foundation
  Society of Broadcast Engineers


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: March 28, 2015 5:44 AM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Tentec 302 Remote tuning knob/encoder for Omni 5, 6 and 6+

No, it's not working Harri and my wiring looks correct.

I guess I need to open up the 302 and double check the pin numbers.  The
302 works fine with my Orion,

73, Barry N1EU

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Harri Sillanpää <harsil@phnet.fi> wrote:

> Hello Barry.
>
> Sorry i made mistake, this is measure in today:
>
> All is measure in cable side
>
> 8-pin DIN male IN CABLE   to 25DB male:
>
> 8 --> 16
> 2 --> 14
> 7 --> 8
> 3 --> 6
>
> Here is link picture, where i found 8-pin DIN connectors number:
> left side picture CABLE SIDE:
>
> http://freespace.virgin.net/tom.baldwin/pinout-8din.html
>
> I hope it works now, if not ask,
>
> sorry my mistake.
>
> 73 Harri OH3PC
>
> 12:42, Barry N1EU kirjoitti:
>
> > Hi Harri,
> >
> > I wired up my 302 remote to the DB25 on the Omni 6+ and it is not tuning.
> > Can you confirm that the pin 1, 6, 2, and 8 connections that you 
> > gave me for the DIN plug from the 302 are numbered the same as this diagram?
> >
> > [image: Image result for 8-pin din connector]
> >
> > When I connect an oscilloscope to the 4 connections, I see +5V and 
> > ground but I don't see any encoder pulses on the other two pins
> >
> > Is there a schematic anywhere for the 302?
> >
> > Thanks & 73,
> > Barry N1EU
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Harri Sillanpää <harsil@phnet.fi>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Here is how i made it.
> > >
> > > NOTE ! ONLY KNOB WORKS, NOT KEYBOARD!
> > >
> > > CONNECT 8-PIN din Male to 25 pin DB-connector:
> > >
> > > 8-pin DIN connector   25-pin DB-connector
> > >
> > > pin 1 to pin 6
> > > pin 6 to pin 8
> > > pin 2 to pin 14
> > > pin 8 to pin 16
> > >
> > > Only 4-wires need.
> > >
> > > i can send to pictures, if someone wants.
> > >
> > > 73 Harri OH3PC
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Varpusenkatu 12
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> > >
> > >
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