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From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:22:48 -0500
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All of this adds up to, as kids, "who's got the fastest car?" After all, the speed limit in town was 30MPH and the local law enforcement knew that very well. With radios and many features, I describe as whistles and bells, it's mostly no more than bragging rights.

Now it seems the latest bragging rights are, "my radio has got more knobs and buttons than yours". Well for a TS-990S owner that's true with it having some 23 knobs and 130 buttons on the front panel.

Yes, everyone's operating styles and needs are different and thus the pros and cons of this one and that one does exist. Regardless of what it has or does or doesn't have or doesn't do, if it doesn't have a good to great receiver and equally good audio, from my take it becomes an expensive paper weight on the desk.

I agree that many to most peripherals were designed for the 100 watt class of radio. I fear with the 200 watt radios hitting the market and the ham population propensity to continue using older amps, there's likely to be a lot of over driven amps and subsequent splatter on the bands.

If I find that I need more than 100 watts to continue or complete a contact, it won't be with a measly 200 watts, it will be more like 1200 to 1500 watts which does make a difference.

Yet it seems today that "bragging rights largely prevail" in most all areas.

73
Bob, K4TAX







----- Original Message ----- From: "K8JHR" <jrichards@k8jhr.com>
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On 5/7/2014 2:53 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
James, I agreed with everything up until the 200w PA.
What's the reasoning for 200w?  Because Yaesu does it?  Me too?
Now days most linears run legal power with just 40w input.




Exactly.  You gotta offer something
different or you are the same.  Remember the
TS-990 has a 200 watt output, also.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO MAKE SENSE... IT ONLY
HAS TO SELL.

Loads of guys like the idea of a 200 watt
rig.  It does not have to make sense, and
if they think they won't need an amp, or
if they think they will be more manly
with a bigger rig, then ...  get it?







There are a lot of peripherals on the market that were designed for 100w and
will fail if hit with 200w.
I don't see any benefit in that.



You are not buy anything, so why vote?

Now, I am not being rude or snotty, but
simply pointing out that guys like you
are not the driving force in the marketplace
and you won't be buying it anyway, because
it does not fit your operating style or
budget or several other considerations, so
I am directing the rig to other guys with
money to burn, and who might operate differently,
and who might think a 200 watt PA is a good plan.

Again, not being personal about you in particular,
but simply saying I think the there is a market
for this sort of thing, provided it comes at a
reasonable cost.

Sheesh... just consider how many guys have purchased
Yaesu rigs with higher power, and how many guys have
purchased a TS-590 with a 200 watt output - now you
would not spend extra for that... but I think a lot
of other guys would.


An analogy:   I think most of the crap they sell
in the Five and Dime Stores and the Dollar Stores
is cheap crap and a waste of money.  But they
are still in business, so they must be making
money SELLING CHEAP CRAP ... so I the point
is to know your audience ... sell what sells.  It
does not have to make sense... it only has to sell.





But my vote is for the spec to remain 100w and the radio to only be drivable
up to that power level.



That's cool.  But what would sell more radios
at a workable cost for buyer and seller, alike?
That is the magic question!



No argument with your technology... just thinking TT
could sell more radios if it offers something more or
different at a lower price point - and just ruminating
on how they can do that.    Simply a marketing thing, not
a technical thing, I am talking about.



--------------------  K8JHR -----------------------------




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