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Re: [TenTec] Re 02 2.0444A questions

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re 02 2.0444A questions
From: Rsoifer@aol.com
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:55:17 -0500 (EST)
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Yes, tthey're plug-in.  No soldering.
 
 
In a message dated 11/22/2010 8:43:47 P.M. GMT Standard Time,  
cdistflatfoot@gmail.com writes:

are the  filters just snap in ?

On 11/22/2010 3:12 PM, N4PY2 wrote:
> Yes,  the 2.4 khz roofing is automatically selected when your DSP BW is 
2.4
>  or lower.  If you put the 1,8 filter in, that will come on when you go  
to
> 1.8 or lower.
>
> I believe my son, N4YDU has a 1.8 khz  filter for sale at a good price.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>  121 Little Bell Drive
> Hays, NC 28635
>  www.n4py.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From:<Rsoifer@aol.com>
>  To:<tentec@contesting.com>;<n4py2@earthlink.net>
> Sent:  Monday, November 22, 2010 3:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re 02 2.0444A  questions
>
>
>>  Right.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/22/2010  7:47:03 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
>> cdistflatfoot@gmail.com  writes:
>>
>> Ok , so  I might try a 1.8 filter for ssb  and this only helps if I am
>> narrower than  2.4kwith dsp  filtering  is that correct ?  and if I have
>> the   filter selection on auto it will kick on only when the dsp is  
below
>> 2.4  .  John
>>
>> On 11/22/2010  2:16 PM, N4PY2 wrote:
>>> The Orion  comes with a standard  2400 hertz roofing filter for SSB and 
a
>>> standard  1000  hertz roofing filter for CW.
>>>
>>> Carl Moreschi  N4PY
>>>   121 Little Bell Drive
>>> Hays,  NC 28635
>>>    www.n4py.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>    From:<Rsoifer@aol.com>
>>>  To:<tentec@contesting.com>
>>>   Sent: Monday,  November 22, 2010 2:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re 02   2.0444A questions
>>>
>>>
>>>>  Barry,
>>>>
>>>>   Most of the time  I'd agree with you, but as Jack described his
>>  situation,
>>>> a
>>>> roofing filter narrower  than 6 kHz (be it  2.4 or 1.8) might help.  
For
>>  CW,
>>>> I generally use 300 Hz,  except on 160 where a  wide roofing filter 
helps
>>>> the  DSP NR  (as long  as there isn't too much strong local   
activity).
>>>>
>>>> 73 Ray   W2RS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  In a message  dated 11/22/2010 6:57:48 P.M. GMT Standard  Time,
>>>>   barry.n1eu@gmail.com  writes:
>>>>
>>>> For ssb,  the dsp   filtering will be sufficient 99% of the time.  If
>>  you're
>>>>   a
>>>> somewhat serious  ssb contester, pop a 1.8Khz filter in -  otherwise,
>>  don't
>>>> bother.  Narrow roofing filters   potentially help much more with   cw.
>>>>
>>>> Barry   N1EU
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM,  John  Molenda
>>>>    <cdistflatfoot@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Ray , I  have no optional  roofing filters in my Orion II but  
have
>>>>>   sometimes wished for them   .  what filter would be my first and  
2nd
>>>>>  choice to load up on ssb  .  I work ssb 75  percent of the time  and 
am
>>>>> just looking to  narrow things  up  when needed .  thanks  John
>>>>>
>>>>> On  11/22/2010   1:10 PM, Rsoifer@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>    Jack,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I'm  not sure these  are the best settings either, but here's 
what  I
>>>>   do.
>>>>>     To
>>>>>> me, AGC Slope works  best at 1:10 so I  leave  it there.  On SSB,  my
>>>>    front
>>>>>> panel AGC button is set to  Prog,  which  translates to Hang 0, Decay
>>>>>>  10
>>>>>     dB/s
>>>>>>  and  Threshold 1.00 uV.  On the Filtr menu,  all of the  optional
>>>>>> roofing
>>>>>>  filters (I  have them all too) are enabled and Xtal filter  is set  
to
>>>>   Auto.
>>>>>   With
>>>>>> the DSP filter set   to  2750, that would auto-select the 6 kHz
>>>>>>  roofing
>>>>>     filter,
>>>>>     >   which may  be your problem.  If you set the DSP filter to  
2400,
>>  that
>>>>>     should
>>>>>>   auto-select the 2.4 kHz roofing  filter    instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I generally  use the 6 kHz  roofing filter  for 160-meter CW (tnx,  
Bob
>>>>   K8IA,
>>>>>> for that  tip) but 2.4 kHz for    SSB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this   helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73    Ray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  In a message  dated 11/22/2010  5:52:19 P.M. GMT Standard   Time,
>>>>>>      Thomas.Emerson.Jr@morganstanleysmithbarney.com   writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>      >
>>>>>> Hey Ray,
>>>>>> Not sure  how well this  is  going to work. I'm at  work now,  just
>>>>   checking
>>>>>> for  replies  via the archives on this  work   station.
>>>>>> OK, here's your  answers. I  have  all the filters installed. It  
does
>>>>>>   not
>>>>>   do
>>>>>> it on cw. It mostly  occurs on 75m,  at night, when lots of  strong
>>>>    signals
>>>>>> and QRM are around. And it's not like  it's   happening constantly,
>>>>>>  just
>>>>>> occasional popping in the  audio,  if  very strong signals are on
>>>>    frequency
>>>>> or  nearby.
>>>>>>  I  usually  keep the filter on ssb set at 2750 hz. I'm thinking  
maybe
>>>>>>   I
>>>>>  need
>>>>>> to cut it below 2400, and let that   roofing filter  kick in. Will 
try
>>  it
>>>>>>    tonight.
>>>>>> And the hardware nb is  off.   Using nr  helps, and moving the  agc
>>  slope
>>>>>   from
>>>>>   >   flat to one of the other 2  settings eliminates  it. But I 
prefer
>> to
>>>>    keep
>>>>>> agc slope at the flat setting, so I'm hoping  someone  else  has
>>>>>     experienced
>>>>>>   this and found a solution  other  than the agc slope    adjustment.
>>>>>> I would think that adjusting  the  agc  menu settings (decay,  hang,
>>>>>>  threshold) would do  it,  but I haven't found the right combo  yet.
>>>>>>   Jack   W4TJE
>>>>>     >
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