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Re: [TenTec] Aux I/O connection

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Aux I/O connection
From: "Ron Zond" <k3miy@csonline.net>
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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:15:19 -0400
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Bob

the design of modern rigs dictate the use (or non use) of soundcard
interfaces. The TT Argo V permits direct connection, perhaps other TT
rigs do this as well. It would be great if
rigs had the software and SC emulator
built in. One can hope.
73

Ron
K3MIY


-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:00 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Aux I/O connection


Yes, true, but what about the other 20 or so current digital modes that are
available these days?  These are efficient with highly reliable data
throughput modes as opposed to the slow antiquated RTTY mode.   Remember
RTTY is the ONLY one that uses the FSK method of transmission.  All of the
digital modes are available via current free software and no interface is
needed.  My motto:  more boxes + more cables + more connectors = more
problems.

Of course what do I know, I still run Class C high level modulated AM using
a 1956 transmitter and not a 2000 technology transmitter.  I got rid of my
Model 25 RTTY floor shaker at least 40 years ago.  Haven't been back on FSK
RTTY since.  And oh by the way, my AM transmitter doesn't use any more
sideband bandwidth than current technology SSB rigs and in many cases it
uses less.

73
Bob, K4TAX






----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Williams" <k8ztt@mho.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Aux I/O connection


> Jack,
>
> If you are going to operate RTTY, I would highly suggest you "connect" the
> red and black cables and forget about the soundcard for AFSK.   The O2 is
> much better suited for FSK RTTY; and in fact when you select FSK for the
> mode it switches in the right filters for RTTY.
>
> Additionally you don't have to worry about audio levels, overdrive, and a
> whole "s--tload of other problems associated with trying to use AFSK.
>
> There are several interfaces on the market that work very well for
> interfacing the radio with the computer and save you the "headaches" of
> connecting the radio directly to the computer (you really should use
> isolation transformers - especially on the line sending audio from the
> sound
> card to your radio).
>
> Ones that I have tried include the RigBlaster, Rig Expert Standard and in
> the near future the Naviagtor;  I believe MFJ also has one too.   All work
> very well with FSK and as far as I know, with all digital modes).
> Although
> I learned many years ago NEVER say "all"; there always seems to be some
> exception.
>
> The advantages of the Rig Expert and Navigator are they both have built in
> sound cards,  you only run one cable (USB) to your computer,  both have
> cables that are taylor made for your radio and plug directly into the Aux
> din plug (plug and play - forget about the breakout cable that came with
> the
> O2), and you don't tie up your sound card with the radio.  There are some
> others too, but the aforementioned are the main ones.
>
> If you like to homebrew,  it is very easy to make a FSK keying circuit
> (and
> a PTT circuit) using a general purpose NPN transistor and a 1k resistor.
> You hook the FSK line to the colector, the emmiter is grounded, and you
> "FSK
> key" the transistor base from pin3 of a serial port you assign for FSK
> (for
> PTT you use the same circuit and pin 7 on the DB-9 com port).
>
> I think you will find that most really serious RTTY enthusists use FSK if
> at
> all possible.
>
> My two cents worth.
>
> Dick K8ZTT
>
> PS A couple of excellent programs (both free) that I have tried for
> digital
> are MMTTY for RTTY and Hamscope for PSK31 and RTTY (uses the MMTTY
> engine).
> I doubt if you can find one guy that will "bad mouth" either;  and that is
> not to say that other excellent programs don't exist, there most certainly
> are, but I have not tried them.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Cannon" <sugar_bears_home@yahoo.com>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Aux I/O connection
>
>
>> Jack,
>> Are the other two cables from the Orion II Aux I/O port plug (the red and
>> black cables) supposed to be connected?
>>
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> John, if you look at your manual and the I/O cable that comes with the
>> Orion, you will note that cable has red, white, black and yellow ends.
>> all are phono plugs.
>> get a 1/8" adapter for each to plug into the sound card on your
>> computer.
>> white from the Orion goes to BLUE on your sound card.
>> yellow from the Orion goes to PINK on your sound card.
>>
>> use stereo plugs for the sound card.
>>
>> jack ak7o
>>
>>
>> the white from your I/O (from the Orion) goes to the On Sat, 2009-04-18
>> at 20:48 -0400, John B. Egger wrote:
>>> I'm hoping to get started on digital modes (other than CW, that is) but
>>> face a problem right at the start. My computer has "Speaker out" (used
>>> for its speakers), "Line In," and "Mic In" jacks (all 1/8" stereo). The
>>> auxiliary cable's white phono plug is for "Line In", but I have no "line
>>> out" on my computer. Does it go (through a phono-to-stereo-plug adapter)
>>> to the computer's "Line In" jack?
>>>
>>> Obviously I'm on the ground floor with this. Other connections, and
>>> software (I have Fldigi, Xlog, and Twpsk) issues will come later.
>>>
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