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Re: [TenTec] ORION QRQ Performance

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORION QRQ Performance
From: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:49:17 -0000
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Tom

Whilst what you have to say here is certainly interesting I am not so sure
it is convincing.

At this stage I have three files which I believe tell the story with Orion
QRQ.  These files which are half speed transcripts of the Orion at 60, 65
and 70 wpm tell a meaningful story.  Should anyone be interested in
listening to these files I will be happy to send them a copy.

I am convinced that the CW input from my Writelog Mult-keyer combination is
good but respect the doubts cast by Barry and Duane.  To deal with these
concerns, I will conduct a similar set of tests recording input keying
alongside Orion output  copied on a seperate rx.  I propose  to make a
stereo sound file of input/output at 60, 65 & 70 wpm.  It seems to me that
should remove all doubt over what is causing the hiccups here.

I contend that Orion is capable upto 60 wpm in producing good code but not
thereafter.

Tom, If YPlog and DGM keyboard produce bad code above 40 wpm with Orion then
that must most likely be due to the performance of those s/w products.
That I can get good CW output at upto 60 wpm with Writelog says that Orion
is capable of that.  Writelog is not so clever that it can do it despite the
inability of Orion.

Bob, 5B4AGN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORION QRQ Performance


> Your correct Barry.
>
> YPlog, which runs under Windows, generates code via the sound card,
> purposely done so to bypass the timing issues with I/O ports. I have run
> YPlog in normal conversations at speeds over 100 wpm, with no timing
issues.
> However, to be extra sure, when testing my two Orion at speeds in excess
of
> 40 wpm, I use both YPlog and a DGM keyboard and get duplicate results. One
> must make sure their 'test equipment' is correct, before they turn to the
> device under test.
>
> To further verify that my CW 'test equipment' functions correct, I remove
> the key line from my Orion's and plug it into my Omni 6, The Orion's do
not
> reproduce the input waveform at speeds much over 42 wpm, the Omni 6
> faithfully reproduces the input keying waveform until you reach a speed of
> about 68 wpm.
>
> Tom - W4BQF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry N1EU" <n1eu@yahoo.com>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:53 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] ORION QRQ Performance
>
>
> > Bob Henderson wrote:  "This morning I set out to
> > answer Toby's question and had some very peculiar
> > results.  At this stage I was puzzled, as 60 wpm had
> > been absolutely fine 2 days ago with the same Orion
> > and exactly the same set up."
> >
> > Use of a Windows PC to generate the QRQ code is highly
> > suspect unless you can monitor it directly.  It would
> > be nice to rule that out as a potential source of the
> > problem by using an external keying device.
> >
> > 73,
> > Barry N1EU
> >
> >
> >
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