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Re: [RFI] ARRL to FCC..

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Subject: Re: [RFI] ARRL to FCC..
From: "Hare, Ed W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 22:58:29 +0000
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I can shed a bit more light on this, I think.

Many hams have an image of something that has never existed on a regular basis 
-- the thought that if they had interference, they could call the FCC, which 
would quickly send out a team to find the source of the noise.  This has never 
happened on any regular basis and is less likely to happen now.  

Under the FCC's rules, manufacturers of equipment are required to meet certain 
emissions-limit and labeling requirements. If the manufacturer does, it may 
market its products. Under these rules, most non-radio devices, other than 
personal computers, are "Verified" under Part 15 or Part 18 FCC rules, meaning 
that the manufacturer is required to test them, and to keep test results on 
file if ever asked for by the FCC.  There are generally higher limits for 
commercial products than consumer products, and all sellers and marketers of 
products are required to market them into appropriate environments.

If these rules are met, the operators of devices, ie your electric utility, 
your neighbor, or even you, are required to use them in a way that does not 
cause harmful interference to licensed radio users.

Hams can get some support from the FCC, but generally only if the ham is able 
to identify what the actual source of a product is and who is operating it.  
The ARRL and FCC have, over years of time, developed a cooperative program 
where the FCC will generally ask the ARRL to help with a case, helping to 
determine what the source is, who is operating it and whether its noise is 
actually causing "harmful interference" as defined by the FCC's rules.  The FCC 
does expect that hams will make reasonable efforts to resolve problems with the 
operator of the device directly, before asking the FCC for help.  If these 
efforts are not successful, ARRL has been asked to help document the case 
history and gte the case to the FCC, which after its own review, usually sends 
an advisory letter to the operator of the device.  The ARRL "power line" 
program is also used by the FCC as the first steps of a case involving a 
neighbor.  See the various links under http://www.arrl.org/part-15-radio-freq
 uency-devices for more information.

ARRL also does what it can to try to address problems directly with industry. 
It has contacts in the cable industry and with a number of major manufacturers, 
such as AT&T, to deal with UVerse problems, for example. ARRL also sits on a 
number of major industry committees, keeping a seat at these important tables 
for Amateur Radio, often serving at the head of the table in leadership roles. 
At this point, for example, I serve on the Board of Directors of the IEEE 
Electromagnetic Compatibility Society, as a current member of the EMC Society 
Standards Development and Education Committee, as past Secretary of that 
committee and as the current Vice Chair of the ANSI accredited C63 Committee's 
subcommittee on device immunty, for example. Although this work does not always 
result in Amateur Radio getting a pristine noise environment, it does ensure 
that industry is well aware of the needs of Amateur Radio, and that Amateur 
Radio is a part of the process.  This has often serves us all
  well, as seen in the recent study of arc-fault-current-inturrupter circuit 
breakers, where the manufacturer was very open ARRL in part because of the 
League's involvement with industry. The result was a site visit by the 
manufacturer, joint testing and a re-design of its products to no longer trip 
in the presence of typical Amateur signals.

ARRL has been buying and testing various products, finding significant 
violations of the FCC limits.  Unfortunately, the limits are rather high. This 
means that a "legal" device in the house next door, perhaps 100 feet away, 
could generate S7 to S9 noise on HF.  So, the large majority of devices the 
League has tested have actually met the emissions limits. The interference was 
then addressed on the basis of harmful interfence.

ARRL does have to make some judgment calls about what products to buy and test, 
because of limited resources, especially staff time.  So we look for the VERY 
loud noise, such as grow lights, some battery chargers and the like, then make 
purchases based on specific complaints in which the offending model numbers can 
be identified.  We are looking more to the items sold in the big box stores, 
instead of the occasional eBay seller.  To that end, we need good reports that 
are based on an actual complaint, with a model still in production and being 
sold. We can then do as we did with the grow lights and other products along 
the way and file formal complaints the FCC.  The interference from the eBay 
item or the 1950s lighting fixture can still be addressed as an individual 
complaint.

In other cases, ARRL does take a broader approach. When CFLs and LED bulbs came 
on the scene, the posts about the doom of Amateur Radio were rampant, and to 
assess the problem, ARRL purchased a large number of products and measured 
them. As predicted, most complied, although a few problems were identified.  

What the majority of the reports ARRL gets, however, involve an "unknown 
source." At that point for the most part, trying to identify WHAT is is becomes 
moot unless the ham can figure out where it is. Without an indentified device 
operator or model number, the only recourse is to find the actual source and 
work with a neighbor, then with the ARRL and FCC, to try to get it resolved.

I hope this is all helpful.

73, Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Lab Manager




-----Original Message-----
From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Silver, Ward, N0AX
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:10 AM
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] ARRL to FCC..

I think Kim has it right here, contrasting PROACTIVE with REACTIVE. When we 
identify screwed-up equipment like ballasts and wireless cameras and that sort 
of thing with a very specific problem and tied to specific models and 
manufacturers, it's straightforward for the FCC to deal with the problem in a 
limited and bounded way, and they usually do.  That's why documented evidence 
is so important in supporting any kind of regulatory action.  But just railing 
against classes of devices creating interference is going to go nowhere at the 
agency level, regardless of what the regulations may say or imply.

> You must clearly understand what Ward was told. It punts to "no 
> additional funding for PROACTIVE RFI enforcement," NOT "no funds for RFI 
> enforcement."  The > FCC has finding only for reactive RFI enforcement, not 
> proactive RFI enforcement. Do the have authority? Yes. Do they have the 
> ability to exercise it in proactive manner? No.

> What's the solution? Funding and spending authority. Kim N5OP

Exactly.  The FCC currently has no congressional mandate to go out and 
aggressively hassle importers about interference-related issues.  There is no 
reason or incentive for them to pick a fight with industry lobbyists over 
interference to us.  We will be far better off to continue to make 
well-documented cases contesting specific types and instances of interference 
in order to support the general case when an opportunity presents itself to do 
so.  That is why it's important to support spectrum defense efforts and why the 
ARRL Lab's traceable, calibrated work on RFI is so valuable.  A solid technical 
case was the foundation for the ARRL being able to prevail on the merits of the 
BPL case.

There will eventually be some recognition by both industry and regulators that 
the RF spectrum is not an infinite ocean into which electromagnetic pollution 
can be harmlessly dumped.  That day is not here yet - it usually takes some 
kind of spectacular incident to get and hold the necessary attention to achieve 
a response.  In the meantime, document problems and solutions, educate your 
representatives (and
neighbors) about the technical issues and the need for regulatory oversight, 
and support organizations such as the ARRL in their efforts to develop and 
sustain the necessary body of technical work.

73, Ward N0AX
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