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RE: [RFI] Broadband over Power Line (BPL) radio interference

To: "'Hare,Ed, W1RFI'" <w1rfi@arrl.org>, <rfi@contesting.com>,<bplandhamradio@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [RFI] Broadband over Power Line (BPL) radio interference
From: "Dave Bernstein" <dave.bernstein@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:50:38 -0400
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Since, as you say, the locations of BPL trials are not secrets, then the
risk of yahoo behavior is present either way. Being more open about the
"local coordinator" strategy might actually reduce the yahoo threat.

For the record, my comments criticized your responses, positions, and web
site; they were not intended to insult or demean you. I am perhaps too
accustomed to an environment where engineers actively solicit critique and
prefer to receive it unencumbered by diplomacy.

    73,

        Dave, AA6YQ

-----Original Message-----
From: rfi-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Hare,Ed, W1RFI
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:18 PM
To: rfi@contesting.com; bplandhamradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RFI] Broadband over Power Line (BPL) radio interference


Well, I guess you are now a hindrance instead of a help now, too, Tom. :-)

I have been glad to share the information I have with anyone who wants to do
some serious BPL work, either by putting them in touch with responsible
local teams or, if those don't exist, by first ensuring that they are not
the type who will do "testing" in a way that is disruptive of a
neighborhood. In some cases, the local hams have been given extraordinary
cooperation from the local utilities, but under the strict understanding
that what the hams do will not be disruptive. And all it takes is one yahoo
to undermine all of that, setting back the work of dozens of volunteers. And
anyone who thinks that no ham would be a yahoo is really not being very
realistic.

When you consider all that is at stake, being careful with information that
some local amateurs have chosen to guard closely to maintain their
productive relationship is far from what ham here called "a hindrance."
Those who would hate the League over my choice will soon find another reason
to hate the League.  One phone call or email exchange is usually all it has
taken for me to send hams right to the streets they need to see. One such
ham was Dave Hallidy, who has done some extraordinary work in Penn Yan.

Now, if we can find those volunteers to take on some of the web-page updates
without having to be publically insultive in the process, we can make a bit
of progress today. :-)

Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Laboratory Manager
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06013
Tel: 860-594-0318
Internet: W1RFI@arrl.org
Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis
Member: ASC C63 EMC Committee
   Chairman: Subcommittee 5, Immunity
   Chairman: Ad hoc BPL Working Group
Member: IEEE SCC-28 RF Safety
Member: Society of Automotive Engineers EMC/EMR Committee
Member: IEEE 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Rauch [mailto:w8ji@contesting.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:00 PM
> To: Hare,Ed, W1RFI; rfi@contesting.com; bplandhamradio@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Broadband over Power Line (BPL) radio interference
> 
> 
> I will point out that I am not publicizing the specific information I 
> have on BPL locations, for pretty obvious reasons. Those hams that are 
> willing and able to help should do so through the local amateurs that 
> are working with their local utilities and BPL providers across the 
> country. To do otherwise could well be working at cross purposes with 
> those local efforts, and with local hams donating hundreds of
> hours collectively, no one should make things any harder.
> The few posts I have see from hams offering to "solve" the
> BPL problem by parking 500-watt mobile stations under the
> lines or engaging in some good old target practice should
> alert anyone that such information should not be published
> openly.>>>
> 
> I certainly agree with that!!!
> 
> Good intentions like that could cook our goose! Honestly, some of the 
> more level-headed approaches are technically embarrassing to read. All 
> we need are the mobs of hotheads.
> 
> 73 Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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