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RE: [RFI] RFI & FCC

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Subject: RE: [RFI] RFI & FCC
From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:11:52 -0400
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The value of amateur radio is without question.

Take a look at http://www.gobpl.com/emcomms.html to see just how amateur radio 
contributes.

Ed Hare, W1RFI



> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfi-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of dgsvetan@rockwellcollins.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:12 PM
> To: kd4e@arrl.net; rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI & FCC
> 
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> Doc and All,
> 
> Just a couple of quick comments:
> 
> 1.  Many garage door openers operate around 315 MHz, as do the remote
> lock/unlock systems for vehicles.  That frequency is also in 
> the military
> comm band.
> 
> 2.  The garage door opener issue is not new.  There was a 
> well-documented
> event several years ago in the San Diego area in which dozens 
> of garage
> doors started opening when the fleet came home to port.  The 
> newer units
> with their rolling security codes have somewhat reduced that 
> problem.  As
> for the hapless homeowners in Florida, well, gee, they'll 
> have to figure
> out how to QSY their units to either 433.91 MHz (gasp!) or 
> the 915 MHz ISM
> band (where they belong).  I wonder if any of them will file 
> suit against
> the garage opener vendors AND the FCC to compensate for their 
> loss of use
> and security.
> 
> Doc, as for your comments about 9/11, I sent an e-mail to the 
> editor of
> 2-way industry trade rag shortly after 9/11.  His magazine 
> had been crowing
> over the fact that Motorola worked non-stop in loading 72 
> semis with comm
> gear to ship to NYC after the disaster, and that it took 
> nearly a week to
> accomplish that task.  I asked him who he thought might have 
> kept the comms
> going for that week while all of that effort was being made 
> by Moto.  I
> accompanied my message with an excerpt from the ARRL Bulletin that
> summarized the work done by hams in those days immediately 
> following the
> attack.  I also reminded him that some of those hams helping 
> out could well
> be readers of his magazine.  He actually did print my letter 
> and thanked me
> for the submittal.
> 
> 73, Dale
> WA9ENA
> 
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> NOTE:  I think this discussion should be moved to the more appropriate
> rfi@contesting.com list and now invite folks to follow it there.
> 
> Since the political hacks on the 911 Commission have opened the
> doors to all manner of ridiculous nonsense in their headlong
> rush to self-aggrandize and to mount partisan political attacks
> why should not Amateur Radio demand our "15 minutes of fame"?
> 
> Someone from the ARRL should insist on an opportunity to
> describe the many ways that Amateur Radio fills-the-gap in
> critical emergency communications, during 911 and thousands
> of other crises and disasters.
> 
> The 911 Commission hacks have asked why there were communications
> failures, some organizational, some technological.  Someone
> from the ARRL could readily address the common failures of
> public service communications in disasters and why and how
> Amateur Radio is the best qualified resource to fill-the-gap.
> 
> Perhaps someone in the communications bureaucracy will catch
> a clue and think before promulgating foolish and short-sighted
> regs?  And maybe public service decisionmakers will become a
> little more discerning when listening to the salesmen from
> Motorola, et al, and ask harder questions about reliability,
> redundancy, and inter-agency compatibility?
> 
> I have a dream ... ;-)  doc
> 
> 
> Cliff KD4GT wrote:
> > Sometimes it takes a while before the actions of the FCC 
> really come to
> > light.
> >
> > An AP news story of 05/20/04 reports that a new Air Force 
> radio system by
> > Motorola is being tested at Elgin AFB in Florida. Homeowners in the
> > surrounding area are reporting their garage door openers 
> are no longer
> > functioning. An FCC spokesperson said that 'IF' the Air Force is
> operating
> > within its assigned frequencies then the users of the 
> garage door openers
> > will have to change theirs.
> >
> > Hmmm ... the FCC allowed these Part 15 devices to be 
> produced even though
> > they operate around the 435~436 MHz area. We hams have 
> 420-440MHz on a
> > 'secondary' basis with the US federal government (military) 
> being the
> > primary user. The FCC is also willing to let the RFID Tag 
> folks crank up
> the
> > power well beyond the Part 15 limits in this same area.
> >
> > How long is it going to be before the BPL or RFID starts 
> interfering with
> > critical communications and someone dies? Or maybe the FCC 
> will just find
> a
> > solution of dropping all those nifty new gizmos into the 
> ham bands? After
> > all, we are just 'amateurs' and don't really provide any beneficial
> return
> > for the bandwidth given to us.
> >
> > Watching to see how this conflict between the Part 15 
> garage door openers
> > and the US military plays out will, at the very least, be 
> interesting.
> >
> > 73 de KD4GT
> >
> >
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> --
> Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e
> West Central Florida
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