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Re: [CQ-Contest] 7% of contesters self spotted in ARRL DX SSB 2024 - twi

To: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 7% of contesters self spotted in ARRL DX SSB 2024 - twice as many as in CW
From: Jack Brindle via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@me.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:57:13 -0500
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Mike;

The skimmer code sometimes gets the call wrong. I saw quite a few skimmer/RBN 
spots in CW DX Test that were incorrect. Most had a skimmer spot at the same 
frequency with the correct call.
Just to make sure, it seems reasonable to do a self-spot to make sure it gets 
through properly. In phone test, I saw a lot of this.

It might also be worth while to re-spot the bad call with something out of the 
CW segment to get it out of most user’s maps. It would be interesting to hear 
peoples thoughts on doing that, especially since it is somewhat possible the 
call is a good one.

73,
Jack, W6FB

> On Mar 9, 2024, at 3:16 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
> 
> What would be the reason to self spot on CW?  I see the advantages on SSB.
> 
> W0MU
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/9/2024 9:36 AM, Sandy N7RQ via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>  Interesting.  I tried self-spotting for the first time.  Although it 
>> appeared to work in tests prior to the contest, I couldn't get it to work 
>> during it.  Clearly, something I didn't do in the set-up prevented it.  Bob 
>> K8IA was in the other room watching a mirror of my screen and he would spot 
>> me now and then at his leisure while he was watching tv, along with other 
>> folks in the contest who also spotted me.  I'm still never going to beat 
>> KU2M with his east coast killer station, but I enjoyed a more steady run of 
>> stations for a good part of the contest.  We won't talk about most of Sunday 
>> - bleah.  Thank you for this, Tim.  It's very interesting.
>> 73/88 Sandy N7RQ
>>     On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 07:14:13 AM MST, Tim Shoppa 
>> <tshoppa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>    342 stations self-spotted during ARRL DX SSB 2024 more than 10 times, a
>> clear step up over self-spotting usage in the CW leg two weeks earlier.
>> 
>> Self-spotting has been allowed by ARRL for all entrants in ARRL contests
>> for 15 months now. Note that most all other contest sponsors - especially
>> CQ/WWROF contests - still explicitly ban self-spotting.
>> 
>> Several prominent US/VE stations used DX callsigns as the originator when
>> sending some or all of their self spots to the cluster, and visa-versa. For
>> example, 9A7P self-spotted using W3WM, and AA3B self spotted using DL/AA3B.
>> This is above and beyond several US hams in the Caribbean that logged into
>> the cluster using their home callsigns. This is important to work around
>> geographically restrictive filters many hams have set for the origin of the
>> cluster spots they see.
>> 
>> The top ten self-spotters in ARRL DX SSB 2024 by my analysis are:
>> 
>> #self-
>> spots  call    spotted using calls
>> -----  -----  -------------------
>> 589    9A1A    9A1A 9A5W
>> 542    CR6K    CR6K CT1ILT
>> 529    ZF1A    ZF1A ZF1BB
>> 483    W3LPL  W3LPL
>> 394    K1TTT  K1TTT KA1R
>> 386    PJ2T    K8ND PJ2T W0CG
>> 384    N5DX    N5DX
>> 379    9A7P    9A7P W3WM
>> 360    EI7M    G4PCS
>> 358    ED7W    EB7A ED7W
>> 
>> You can find my full self-spotting analysis for ARRL DX SSB 2024 and the
>> raw Telnet data at https://radiosport.world/2024arrlssb.html
>> 
>> Tim N3QE
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