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Re: [CQ-Contest] Fewer than 3% of contesters self-spotted in ARRL DX CW

Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fewer than 3% of contesters self-spotted in ARRL DX CW 2024
From: PY2NY <py2ny.vitor@gmail.com>
Reply-to: py2ny@arrl.net
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 10:16:55 -0300
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Hi there !!
No self-spots here, no DX-Summit, no cluster, no-assisted.
And was fine to me.
Ok, now we have the SSB portion, and will be different. I
don't know if I will keep myself out of the world, really.
I don't have any plans but beat my personal records, from
the times when we had no help.
Well, let's think about that.
.
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Em seg., 19 de fev. de 2024 às 23:03, Jamie WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
escreveu:

> I will echo that, as soon as I started running, I could see I was
> spotted by RBN in the INFO window of N1MM......and got some
> callers....BUT.....when I got a manual spot on the old school network,
> it was almost instant pileup....
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From "Saulius Zalnerauskas" <ly5w.sam@gmail.com>
> To "Joe" <nss@mwt.net>
> Cc "Tim Shoppa" <tshoppa@gmail.com>; "CQ-Contest Reflector"
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Date 2/19/2024 3:45:47 PM
> Subject Re: [CQ-Contest] Fewer than 3% of contesters self-spotted in
> ARRL DX CW 2024
>
> >Joe (WB9SBD) I thought same as you, but I tried to do selfspot and found
> >how much it helps.
> >Not very much old fashioned dudies using RBN telnet spots. They just
> >looking to DX summit  :)
> >Really!
> >Sam LY5W
> >
> >2024-02-19, pr 22:38, Joe <nss@mwt.net> rašė:
> >
> >>  You should do this test in a Phone contest. I bet the results would be
> >>  very different.
> >>
> >>  In a CW test I do not see any need to self spot at all.
> >>
> >>  I mean each CQ most likely will be caught by the RBN, and spot you.
> >>  And your self spots will be blocked, ignored, whatever ya call it.
> >>
> >>  Only if you stop CQing and time it just right should a self spot make
> it
> >>  through.
> >>
> >>  Joe WB9SBD
> >>
> >>  On 2/19/2024 10:02 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote:
> >>  > I gathered manual (non-reversebeacon) spots from 9 Telnet cluster
> nodes
> >>  > around the world over the 48-hour ARRL DX CW 2024 contest, deduped
> them,
> >>  > and counted self-spots to see how widely self-spotting has been
> adopted,
> >>  14
> >>  > months after the ARRL began allowing self-spotting by all entrants in
> >>  ARRL
> >>  > contests.
> >>  >
> >>  > (Note that almost all other major HF contest sponsors do not allow
> >>  > self-spotting and strictly forbid it!)
> >>  >
> >>  > I also included as self-spots, the case where the spotting station(s)
> >>  used
> >>  > a different call than the spotted call. This was not at all rare;
> many
> >>  > contesters used a special call for the contest but were, for example,
> >>  > logged into the cluster with their regular call. Other DXpedition
> teams
> >>  > seem to have specifically logged in to clusters and spotted using
> >>  multiple
> >>  > members home calls - a wise choice for when the target audience may
> have
> >>  > excessively strict geographic filters on what spots they receive.
> >>  >
> >>  > Only 134 stations self-spotted in this contest, if I ignore stations
> that
> >>  > self-spotted themselves less than 10 times. There will be more than
> 5000
> >>  > logs submitted for ARRL DX CW this year, so this is fewer than 3% of
> all
> >>  > entrants who have adopted self-spotting. I'm honestly surprised the
> >>  uptake
> >>  > has been so low. In fact, the number of posts to cq-contest on the
> >>  subject
> >>  > of self-spotting in the past 14 months far exceeds the number of
> >>  > self-spotters.
> >>  >
> >>  > Top 10 self-spotters, and the calls they self-spotted under, are
> listed
> >>  > below. The self-spot counts below are after some aggressive deduping
> -
> >>  for
> >>  > example if a station posted themselves on multiple frequencies in the
> >>  same
> >>  > minute I only counted it as a single self-spot. You can find a
> complete
> >>  > list of all 134 stations, and the raw telnet cluster data, at
> >>  > https://radiosport.world/2024arrlcw.html
> >>  >
> >>  > The Top 10:
> >>  >
> >>  > #self-
> >>  > spots   call    spotted using calls
> >>  > -----   ------  -------------------
> >>  > 632     CR6K    CR6K CT1ILT
> >>  > 449     V3T     V31TP
> >>  > 427     S53M    S53M
> >>  > 341     W4NF    W4NF
> >>  > 340     AA3B    AA3B
> >>  > 306     W3LPL   W3LPL
> >>  > 267     MW4R    MW4R
> >>  > 261     K3LR    K3LR
> >>  > 244     PJ2T    K8ND PJ2T W0CG W4EE
> >>  > 238     OM2VL   OM2VL
> >>  >
> >>  > Tim N3QE
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