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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

To: "jimk8mr@aol.com" <jimk8mr@aol.com>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
From: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 17:05:55 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Crutch.

73, de Hans, KØHB
“Just a Boy and his Radio”™
________________________________
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on 
behalf of K8MR via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:47:17 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

CW contesting does use FEC. In this application it's called "Call History 
Files".

73  -  Jim  K8MR


-----Original Message-----
From: rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com>
To: ktfrog007@aol.com
Cc: ab7echo@gmail.com <ab7echo@gmail.com>; cq-contest@contesting.com 
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2022 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests

They use FEC and LDPC. None of which are in CW.

Even so the WSJT code is open source.

We are really grasping at straws here.

Ria
N2RJ

On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 2:37 PM AB1J via CQ-Contest <
cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:

> Is this true? I thought FT modes used FEC methods which wouldn't be
> available on CW. I have limited knowledge, but I can't see how it would
> work on normal CW.
>
> 73,
> Ken, AB1J
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2022 5:17 pm
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL to allow self-spotting in contests
>
>
> The signal processing techniques utilized in FT8 could have been used to
> enhance the signal-to-noise of normal CW in a way that would have been
> virtually transparent to the operator.  It's truly a shame that WSJT-X
> has landlocked those techniques within FT8 in the minds of just about
> everyone in our hobby, as well as giving those techniques such a bad
> image that nobody seems willing to take up the mantle to fix it.
>
> The signal processing technology behind FT8 is awesome, but it is
> neither unique nor proprietary.  It should have enhanced the hobby for
> all of us, especially for us contesters since almost all of our
> transmissions come from keypresses in a logging program anyway. Instead
> it is being held hostage to WSJT-X for no real reason other than inertia.
>
> 73,
> Dave  AB7E
>

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