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Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>, "EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com" <EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>, "kzerohb@gmail.com" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 20:54:33 -0500
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Actually,
In the back of my mind, did not like the ARRL, CQ any award offering organization even in the beginning say there will be no like WAS or DXCC awards offered on those bands also, so it wasn't a DX  contest from day one everyone trying to get the first WAS or DXCC etc?

Joe WB9SBD

On 8/31/2021 8:04 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN via CQ-Contest wrote:
If memory serves, and if I'm wrong I'm sure Hans will correct me...
When we first got access to the WARC bands, there was a lot of controversy amongst 
contesters, especially from those who didn't want to invest in equipment for three more 
band positions -- rigs, antennas, etc.  Especially for three very narrow bands that 
would fill up with signals quickly, if contesting were permitted on those bands.  
Especially considering that we didn't get all three bands at once, and that they were 
phased in at different times and with different limits from different countries and 
administrations.
So the general consensus from the bulk of the contesting clubs and groups were 
to simply exclude the bands, at the time, from contesting.
The "pact" of leaving the bands available for non-contester use wasn't so much as a "pact" as something that 
evolved over time.  And it became, over time, very effective... especially during major contests, as a reasonable 
alternative for non-crowded bands was now available.  (Of course, some would, and continue to, argue that their rights to 
operate on the "traditional" bands where & when they want still trumps all contest activity, so why should THEY 
move off their claimed territory?  But I digress)
So, IMHO, it became, and remains, Good Amateur Practice to prohibit, as a 
"gentlemen's agreement" (and yes, I know we're not all gentlemen, and not all 
men, but we've murdered enough grammar etc. here as it is) organized contesting from the 
WARC bands.
And that's where you agreed to it.  As did we all.  As Good Amateur Practice.  
One of many.
Simple enough.
73


-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>; Hans Brakob 
<kzerohb@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2021 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

I was not asked nor ever agreed to said pact

When exactly did each of us do that actually?

If I am being held to my word l would like to know when I at least gave it

Ed. N1UR

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________________________________
From: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 6:41:16 PM
To: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>; cq-contest@contesting.com 
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

We made a pact with our non-contesting brothers that we’d stay off WARC.  We 
ought not break our word.


73, de Hans, KØHB
“Just a Boy and his Radio”™
________________________________
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on behalf of 
Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 12:04:38 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A DX Contest on the WARC bands -- A terrible idea

Too bad they changed it.  It would have brought some badly needed CW and SSB activity to 
the WARC bands.  It was hardly a contest in the normal contest sense.  Bouvet will 
bring A LOT more noise onto the bands when it appears that this suggested activity event would 
have.


Ed  N1UR
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