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Re: [CQ-Contest] RTTY contesting; filters

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RTTY contesting; filters
From: Jeff Blaine <KeepWalking188@ac0c.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 21:14:37 -0600
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Like Ed, I generally run a wider roofing filter and rely on the decoder software to do the close in filtering.  It takes a while to wrap your head around the idea that what we hear as humans is not really the way the decoder hears the world.

Using 200 Hz on a set of 170 Hz spaced tones will result in chopping off the power in the sidebands which hampers the decoder performance.  And depending on the way the rig filtering is implemented, probably introducing more problems than it solves.

Modern decoders are exceptionally capable beasties - far more than a set of human ears.  For best results, I want the decoder to do the heavy lifting and keep the rig - and your human impulses - out of the way.

73/jeff/ac0c
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On 2/17/21 7:56 PM, WW3S wrote:
I was cranked down to 200 hz and would have gone tighter if I could.....btw, congrats 
John on what appears to be a first place finish, I just couldn’t get much going 
with low power this weekend....

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 17, 2021, at 8:37 PM, john@kk9a.com wrote:

I am sure that is true on a quiet band. I wish that I could find a 600hz
opening anywhere on 20m in last weekend's contest. Any QRM in my passband
makes decoding very difficult.

John KK9A



Ed Muns w0yk wrote:

An IF bandwidth of 600 Hz is ideal with our modern software decoders.
(Narrower bandwidth introduces phase shift that degrades copy error rate.)
Older radios often don't allow narrow filtering in SSB mode.  Yes, you want
to shift such that the bandpass is centered on whatever tone pair you use.



I do like lower tones and typically use 915/1085 which is less fatiguing
over long periods.  OTOH, their TX audio harmonic is still within the normal
2 kHz bandwidth for SSB transmitters when transmitting AFSK.  Not a problem
for those of us using FSK.



73,

Ed W0YK

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