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Re: [CQ-Contest] RAC + 9A

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RAC + 9A
From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 23:26:26 -0600
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Even if the sponsors don't require both stations to submit logs for a contact to count, it seems NIL penalties would be likely. For example, if you log a station in your RAC log, the other op logs it in the 9A log, yet sends in an RAC log, you will get a NIL penalty. Likewise, if you send in your 9A log, the other op will get the penalty. I didn't think of it at the time, but maybe including "RAC" or "9A" in the exchange would clear things up a bit.

I found it particularly frustrating when ops were just calling "CQ TEST". Which TEST?

Is there a way to have two logs open in N1MM+, or does that require another computer?

73,
Scott K9MA


On 12/20/2020 8:03 PM, John Laney wrote:
A lot of the European and especially eastern European contests give credit for QSOs only if both stations send in a log.  I was concerned that I may have wrongly decided which contest one or two stations were in this weekend and may have cost them a lost QSO or penalty.  I kept two separate logs, but it wasn't easy if a station called me after I sent CQ RAC or if I called a TEST station who didn't say which contest he was in.  Generally, on Saturday when the contests overlapped, I had to assume that an European and particularly an eastern European station was in the 9A contest if I was calling him.  If he called me after I called CQ RAC and he was really in the 9A contest, I guess he assumed to risk.  73, John, K4BAI.

On 12/19/2020 8:02 PM, Dan Violette wrote:
I suspect if you do not turn in an RAC log they will be uniques at worst.  You being in more than one log submitted they won't even be that.  They will be counted as good QSOs (which they actually were).

Dan KI6X

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+danki6x=socal.rr.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Steve Bookout
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:37 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RAC + 9A

Scott,

I was in the 9A contest on/off today.  I specifically set my CQ message to '9A test NR4M NR4M' to dissuade people in the RAC from calling me. After the 3rd VE, I just entered '001' instead of 'ON', 'SK' or whatever.  N1MM didn't like what they sent and I didn't feel like arguing with them.

Then, I changed my 'TU' message to 'TU NR4M 9A TEST', and still got RAC contestants.  There were also US stations sending me serial numbers of 300 plus.  Find that hard to believe that were in the 9A contest.  I'm quite sure these were people just clicking on spots and didn't have the ability to actually copy what I was sending.

There surely will be a bunch of NIL's.

73 de Steve, NR4M

On 12/19/2020 5:30 PM, K9MA wrote:

It's too bad these contests overlap, and that the exchanges are so
similar. Not all those calling CQ specify which one they are in. There
surely will be a lot of NIL penalties.

73,

Scott K9MA

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