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Re: [CQ-Contest] Alligators

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Alligators
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 07:49:22 -0500
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Shouldn't you be equally lower in signal strength on the 4 square as your 
ability to hear callers from the west?  Not an alligator?  

In my case, I have a bi-directional array pointing NE/SW and I also have the 
ability to listen with 2 beverages pointing in the 2 directions, switching out 
one once hearing a weaker station.

I think the bigger issue is the amount of QRM east of the Mississippi from 00 - 
07Z (East Coast plus Europe) vs the West coast during that time.  So similarly 
to me hearing an EU station in broad daylight on 80M or 160M 30 - 90 mins 
before sunset.  I can hear them perfectly, but they never respond back.  My 
noise floor is S0 at that time.  Who know what the EU station is hearing.

The point situation is a bigger discussion.  The contest isn't a QSO party, 
it's a DX contest.  So of course DX (as defined normally) should count more 
(insert the usual distance based scoring dialog here).  There are other 
contests - like Stew Perry - where DX is defined differently.  However you 
define it, you are not going to beat the coastal stations on 160M.  

Ed  N1UR

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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Alligators

Hellooooo W6/W7 !!!

The CQ 160M contest scoring is so skewed to favoring W1/W2/W3 --> EU Q's, there 
is no reason to change the 160M 4 SQ from pointing NE. All that
is needed is a single CA/OR/WA QSO for the mult, the rest are 2 point Q's 
compared to a 10 point EU Q. Of course I can barely hear you, I am just
hoping another 10 point DL or F calls me!

The lowly W6/W7 stations are -20+db off the back of the 4 square, maybe I can 
hear you, maybe not. Who cares, you will still work me after EU sunrise.
At that time I will point my 4 square +/- beverages to the West.

I have been there done that, go look at K1A on QRZ.com.

If you have some concerns, write to Hicksville, NY, I am sure they will listen 
and be sympathetic

The only fair contest would be 1 point Q's X mults. A W5/6/7/9/0 might win. 
(((GASP)))

73, Bill KO7SS in Tucson, AZ

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